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detroitchild 09-19-2008 04:09 PM

Ok...
 
...back to the bat cave to hone my tweaking skills for ITZ bases.:cool:

Ron_C 09-23-2008 03:42 AM

loopers
 
ITZ's are great. Hard to tweak for consistency. I have found the best way to defeat a looper is first don't be afraid of it. The defense is tipping there hand and now you know where the pressure is going to come from. Run a screen to the loopers side. roll out away from him. Max protect with TE's and/or RB's. Don't try to take a looper head on with a blocker. loopers are tweaked to defeat these blocks. instead hit them in the side. you need to change thier trajectory. study thier tendency and exploit where you then know they will be.

Go Badgers,
Ron C.

detroitchild 10-16-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolverineFan (Post 52047)
I have perfected the rollout to eliminate the loopers.I will make my qb go left or right.I put him like he is running backwards and use a ttc and no one knows which way he goes.


That's what I do Chuck. I use that alignment for play action passing.

FrustratedFinFan 10-21-2008 09:13 PM

A QB on an ITZ dial would also be sweet....just very unpredictable that way!! I have a QB on a fast old TTQB rookie base that I roll left or right to mess up loopers. Most are set to arc inside and the defense seems to have a hard time making adjustments. I like to roll to the side with multiple receivers. That causes a lot of headaches for the "D." You can also set your tackle to go backwards and outside to pick up loopers. It seems to confuse folks. Of course, that means a good inside blitz where the tackle was will be a problem!!

Steel Town Tough 11-25-2008 11:42 AM

Widen them out
 
Take your Tackles or TE's and widen them out.Then you can set your dial or have a pre set lineman to spin and kick him out.You can also run plays to exploit their loopers.Counters,off tackle type plays after he runs himself out of the play--hope this helps--STT

artlax 11-25-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steel Town Tough (Post 57281)
You can also run plays to exploit their loopers.Counters,off tackle type plays after he runs himself out of the play--hope this helps--STT

These can work quite well at times. $cch$

jimmie 12-18-2008 06:14 PM

loopers
 
roll the qb out and use the shotgun formation if your rules allow that set up!!!also run a back to that side that the looper is coming from their is now a big hole to that side!!

Reginald Rutledge 12-18-2008 07:07 PM

This defeinitely depends on rulesets
 
From the Shootout perspective, there are various ways to control the looper. In the Shootout system, the offense has 35 and the defense has 45. This allows for the anticipation of what a defense will do. After the 35/45, there is an additional 10 seconds for the offense and 5 for the defense.

In my formations, I run mostly wide splits because I believe in linemen who can block out laterally. By having the wide splits, you can neutralize the LBs because you can audible 3-to-1, which allows you to run right at the loopers, either one who is out of position. This is how big gains are busted open because it makes the defense have to account for the block out effect.

This works best for teams who are able to pass the ball in the Shootout system. If you can not pass, some teams will play 7 or 8 across the line to impede any holes available.

Just my take.

Reg

Steel Town Tough 01-12-2009 02:14 PM

Screens.
 
Run screen plays to the side of their best looper/blitzer.Let all their DL go and get you Big boys between the lb/DB's and you rb or wr.You will have more than they do at the point of attack.Can be done in about any style of play--STT frstplc frstplc frstplc frstplc frstplc

GrandMasterKC 01-12-2009 04:00 PM

Had an experience in the BAM SuperBowl where the coach was using an ITZ dial....
 
to kick my looper out further and off his arc/route, it was effective until i found a rythme. What I did was cover the itz tackle between the guard and tackle excellerating with a munroe boat, the speed of the kickout. I had the looper sitting directly behind the munroe...business as usual...sack!:eek: :eek: :eek:


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