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FrustratedFinFan 10-21-2008 09:09 PM

#2 doesn't look good for the offense if you stay running left....the numbers are not in your favor. If you could pivot the runner to get behind the right taclke and right guard, that looks very good, but the defensive audible would probably nullify that.

Coach K-LO 10-22-2008 10:23 AM

answer to the play calls Pic #1
 
Well, only one coach picked up the simple math of this alignment.

offense has the strong side WR in a 1-on-1 matchup without safety help.

VERY BAD DEFENSE.........
L.Fitzgerald blow pass the corner for a 55 yd TD pass....too easy.....

Coach K-LO 10-22-2008 10:26 AM

play #2 results
 
the call on this on was to run to the outside, but too many defenders were there. the key block was by the FB on the OLB which took both him and the SS coming up (#21). Earl Campbell planted and cut up inside and got smashed..........


k-lo

Treks1 10-22-2008 12:28 PM

Been a long time...
 
... since I played football (H.S.) and don't remember all of the terminalogy.
What detrmines strong and weak sides of a formation? is it having more offensive players on one side of the center as opposed to the other, or the tight end? Or is it determined by the allignment of the defenders?

A refresher please....

P.S. I would have been tempted to run on Play #1 also.....
Great post!!!

5-13 Studios 10-22-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treks1 (Post 54479)
... since I played football (H.S.) and don't remember all of the terminalogy.
What detrmines strong and weak sides of a formation? is it having more offensive players on one side of the center as opposed to the other, or the tight end? Or is it determined by the allignment of the defenders?

A refresher please....

P.S. I would have been tempted to run on Play #2 also.....
Great post!!!

in these formations it is the positioning of the tight end in relation to the center. tight end lines up on the left side of the line, that is the strong side, right side same thing. if there are two tight ends in the formation and they are lined up on either side of the line, it can be called a strong formation, or jumbo package, because of the extra blockers on the line.

Coach K-LO 10-22-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5-13 Studios (Post 54480)
in these formations it is the positioning of the tight end in relation to the center. tight end lines up on the left side of the line, that is the strong side, right side same thing. if there are two tight ends in the formation and they are lined up on either side of the line, it can be called a strong formation, or jumbo package, because of the extra blockers on the line.

what he said........


..... that means more posts are needed to give some more explanations of some things.....

.... as soon as I can get my "pointer" to work, I will add some directional patterns to some of the pictures to help those who may need it.

k-lothmbsp$ thmbsp$

FrustratedFinFan 10-23-2008 12:49 AM

You know K Lo.....I have some corners who I can leave on an island like that all day....it just depends on the opponent. So, what looks like a slam dunk isn't always a slam dunk. One on one match-ups aren't always bad.......risky, of course, but sometimes you take a risk in one place to give yourself advantage elsewhere....do you remember what happened on the right side of that #1 offensive set during the action? Did the running back also shake free?

Coach K-LO 10-23-2008 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrustratedFinFan (Post 54535)
You know K Lo.....I have some corners who I can leave on an island like that all day....it just depends on the opponent. So, what looks like a slam dunk isn't always a slam dunk. One on one match-ups aren't always bad.......risky, of course, but sometimes you take a risk in one place to give yourself advantage elsewhere....do you remember what happened on the right side of that #1 offensive set during the action? Did the running back also shake free?

I have corners who do that as well..... but it says more about the WR than the CB...

Our league uses a "pass play timer" that runs the board for 3 seconds. THAT'S IT... your WR/TE/RB better be open or your play is dead. thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ ftbll$ ftbll$ ftbll$ hlmt$ hlmt$ hlmt$

On the backside of the play, I did not follow it to the end because I was watching the TD play.

JIMBO 10-24-2008 06:37 PM

How Then...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach K-LO (Post 54541)
Our league uses a "pass play timer" that runs the board for 3 seconds. THAT'S IT... your WR/TE/RB better be open or your play is dead. thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ ftbll$ ftbll$ ftbll$ hlmt$ hlmt$ hlmt$

How can a trailing team possibly run a Hail Mary on the last play if need be with ONLY 3-seconds of board time? Let's say from their own 20. All the Defense has to do is rush 3 and play 8 Deep!?! Offense has ZERO chance to drive thru his defender and weave thru that minefield! Not to mention the OL gets no credit for being able to hold their blocks longer.

I'm not ripping your rules, I just wanted to delve into the thinking behind that one, Lo! thmbsp$

jeff 10-24-2008 10:05 PM

I have a question about the 3 seconds also.
Can you shut the board off before the 3 seconds expire ?


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