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I don't care for the onside kick rules the way they are currently.

I plan on talking to RM about some changes on that, I got some edumacation at the Philly league with their kick rules, I liked them. ;)

It's not about not punting when you are supposed to, you guys are missing the entire concept. If I am moving the ball and I am on my own 40 yard line and it's 4th and 8, why the hell can't I go for it?!

Why should a rule set take away the opportunity for a game breaker? In the NFL and NCAA that is not the case.

That is the idiotic part to me.

Those of you crying out for realism and simulation can't have it both ways.

Boat bases for example, why limit the number? If you want realism and simulation, do NFL/NCAA teams limit themselves to only two first string receivers on the field?

I just find some rules a little dated and people are reluctant to change.

I would like to see a minimum 2 yard neutral zone (1 yard on each side of LOS)...with only the center up on the ball. Oh...and all foreward armed defensive figures outside the tackles (cover corners) should have their base a minimum 3 yards off the LOS. This would give the the split ends in shootout style a fraction of a chance to not get grabbed and it would create more movement on the LOS in between the tackles. This would also create more room for WRs after pivot audiles in most rule sets. Nothing worse then those cover corner arms hanging over the LOS and locked up on a reciever before the play even starts. I would go as far as to say that if the cover corner is caught over the 3 yard neutral zone then the WR opposite him would get a free pivot audible!

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Coaches

Excellent job in your responses. IM GLAD WE ALL CAN VOICE OUR DISPLEASURES WITHOUT ANYONE GETTING OFFENDED. ANY RULE CREATOR.

1) AGREE WITH SHABBY, I think all forced punt rules should be banned. You cannot create a rule for secondary reasons. ( preventing a coach from quitting).

When you force a coach to punt you have blatantly taken the game out of the coaches hand for no reason. Do we remember new england vs the colts last year. Bill belichik went for it on 4th 1 on there own 30 or so. THEY DID NOT MAKE IT AND THE COLTS SCORED EASILY. Belichik was killed in the press for the next few weeks. DID THE REF WALK OVER TO HIM AND SAY BEFORE HAND, " YOU CANT GO FOR IT HERE, YOU HAVE TO PUNT ".
Let the coach decide what he wants to do, not an uness rule.

2)MIKE ROBERTSON IS RIGHT, I would like to see more detailed shifts and motion play before the snap. Not just the guys in the backfield. There are a million offensive strategies surrounded by many shifts and motions. The defense should be able to show you one package and change it entirely ( all players) during a 10 to 15 second shift period. IE, the d shows no blitz during the set up. at the start of the shift period he should be able to walk 4 blitzers up tp the line if he wants. Also the offense can show 1 line set up and change it entirely. IE, line set straight, then change to 3 pulling guards and move the TE to the other side.

3) 35/45 CLOCK. Im not sure why 10 seconds were take away from the offense. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COACHES CAN USE THAT ADDL 10 SECONDS. Switch personnel in and out of the game is crucial for many coaches.

*** IM NOT COMPARING THE M.P.F.L TO OTHER LEAGUES AND THERE RULES BUT D... IF HE DID NOT GET IT RIGHT. Both coaches set up simultaneously for 45 seconds like the nfl. When your done you must say set. Any one caught with there hand on the field when the 45 second timer goes off is an automatic DELAY OF GAME. NO EXCEPTIONS ! The penalty is enforced right then and there and the yards will be marked off on the field. You better say say set by 43 seconds.

So why not 45/50 or 45/55. Why take away 10 seconds from the offense. The defense is still getting there adjustment period regardless.

3) Quarterback blocking on running plays, i think it would be more interesting to see what running teams can do without the extra help of a blocking qb.

4)I AGREE WITH MICHIGAN JOE, need to fix the neutral zone line play between teams. I notice in some nfl games that teams are way off the ball. In electric football, this would lead to watching your players do there job as an individual and not be caught up in traffic jams.


mantaraydre

Interesting
 

I like topics like that. You can't imagine how much it is important for enthusiast but beginners MF players. You can read the rulesets, but without topics like that, you can't understand everything of it. In the same idea, videos of games are usefull to "feel" the game.

Of course, I'm speaking for foreign players first, since we can't play in leagues and meet all the MF enthusiasts since most of them are in USA. I know that everything is a lot more easy to understand and learn on a real meeting.

Whern I read the discussion here, it's funny to see that the points I had difficulties with when i started to play, are the same points we 're talking about now :

punts
"deployement" timing and position (LOS neutral zone, etc..)
receivers calling and passing
etc...

the funny thing is that everyone can pick up interesting rules in each ruleset here. Perhaps we should have a MFCA "compendium" where we can find all the several option rules for each points we're talking about, around a core ruleset ?

This is why I enjoy playing solitaire. If I don't like a rule, I can change it, modify it or eliminate it. Some of the rules I've seen from other leagues just leave me shaking my head wondering 'why?' It almost seems like the leagues are afraid to try something different. Some examples:

You can't modify the kicker! Why? If I can add a spring to him and make him kick better, so can anyone else. Besides, guys modify the passer, so why can't you modify the kicker??? :rnt; :rnt;

You can't use bases with rounded fronts for your receivers! Why? You allow defenders with their arms grabbing and not letting go. A person needs to be able to do something to get the receiver open. Oh, I see. You're not supposed to be able to get your receiver open because it wouldn't be fair. :dohdh: :dohdh:

And then ther's my personal favorite:
You can't paint the bases! Why? I can paint a rookie base and it still weighs .8g. I can paint a TTC base and it still weighs 1.2-1.3g. If I'm within the limit, why not paint? You allow figures to be painted and guys glob on gallons of clear coat to get them up to their weight limit, but that's ok. Why the hypocracy? The paint adds extra weight. But I'm still within the limit. The paint makes them extra slippery. Yeah, right. I've got 25+ teams with painted bases that'll blow that theory out of the water. It's just not fair to those that don't paint their bases. Well, there's nothing stopping them from painting their bases! :nhnh: :dohdh: :fghttt: :rnt; :fghttt: mtmstnks :confused: :mad: mtmstnks :dohdh:

Didn't realize this many guys wanted to pick
 

apart their own rule set! ppls$ lffng$

@ Joe. Nobody ever spun their dials...so I don't know if it was a rule or not to do it? Most guys never put that player back where he was in the first place. That's why I think they only allowed pivots...not picking up the player

@Shabby -
If you were moving the ball you wouldn't be on 4th!!:dohdh: :fghttt: Stop crying and punt the ball!!! That's what real coaches do! Where's the freakin wifi???

@Al -
You may only paint a base to get uniform. But we have others that will push and stretch any and every rule. We have a 3.3 limit....no adding weight. So you see guys with a pile of mod podge on the platform or grass stacked on up to the players knee to add that lil extra. Or over coat them!

NEFL I don't like that we have to announce the onside kick...I wouldn't mind seeing the surprise attempt.


Nat'l

Another thing
 

It has changed a lil bit with the new plastic, and new stuff being able to compete. But in the old days the guys with deep pockets would be able to dominate because they had more resources than those who didn't. Some guys couldn't get brown bases, some didn't know who was selling monroe shells or dials. Only a select few could afford a 67 big man team..
So in the NEFL they limited or banned some equip to keep the field leveled.
So when you ask why isn't this allowed or that? Is it ez access for everyone?
Can I go on miggle and order 100 pill balls for a season? Are those bullet bases still being produced?

This thread was just to get some thinking, and to put the shoe on the other foot. We always go somewhere to play and say I don't like this or that...now we get to look in the mirror on this post and do it to our own league! :rnt;

I have to run guys, have to pick up mantaray dre!!!! Help set up the tables!


Nat'l

Good luck F.O.T.H. and other Philly coaches hope you all have a great super bowl!!

Corey, this is my point. If I'm within the weight limit for the base, why can't I paint it? If I add too many coats, or glob it up with grass, then I will go over the limit and that base would not be allowed. Everyone is allowed to paint their figures and add face masks, chin straps, jock straps etc. as long as they stay within the weight limit, so why the hypocracy with bases???? I just don't get it. Why is my painted base at.8g more than an unpainted base at .8g?
.8 is .8 1.3 is 1.3 painted or unpainted, if the weight is within limit, why not allow it?? To make a rule based on unsupported baseless assumptions is just plain silly. Lynn was asking the same thing in an earlier post. Like me, he can't stand seeing all the different colored bases out there. Having a team with all grass green bases just looks so much better than having orange, brown, white, black, green, blue, red, yellow and purple mixed together.

Now, I will admit that my scale is only in tenths, so I don't really know if my base weighs .77g or .84g All I know is that it reads .8g, which is good enough for me. I really don't think .07g is going to make a squat worth of difference in strength. I have teams from last year that had unpainted bases ( Mennonites and Zombies) This year I painted them and you know what? Neither team is doing any better than they were last year. There is absolutely no difference in strength that I've been able to notice between painted and unpainted bases. But they sure do look 100% better! frstplc :nhnh: frstplc