I'm Brand New
 

Isn't that what Miggle is for? Unreliable boards, unbalanced figures and a starter set of rules.

I'm with Corey, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA EVER PLAY WITH THOSE RULES?

The MFCA-Con is the only scenario where someone has a choice of rules. After that and actually during that time at the United Way/PFUFA event, we're gonna find out where the new guy that just walked in off the street is from and point him to his Regional Rep, who should say, "There are many ways to play, but this is how WE play in Your Town, USA. What team do you like? Let me introduce you to some of the fellas and I'll give ya a little scouting report on each of them."

How does one get competitive? Bring your rooty-poot Miggle team to the dancefloor and get skull-drug up and down the field. If you don't ask the right questions, then you pretty much don't have what it takes to advance beyond newb status. You'll be the perennial doormat until you do. "You" being figurative, of course, not anyone in particular. EVERY league has that guy. I love that guy and wish I was that guy sometimes. The guy that doesn't care if he wins or loses. The guy that tells everyone he works with that he plays EF/MF/BB with his best buds in the whole wide world every week. The guy that even if you tweak his team better than yours and give him a playbook, he'll still run the same play 50 times just to see if it works 1 time. When it does, he's whooping and hollering like he hit the lottery. BUT...he's playing...and he's playing the way HIS LEAGUE plays.

Leave MFCA independent and void of a specific rule set, or make the rule say one thing..."ANY WHICH WAY YOU PLAY, ON ANY GIVEN DAY, HAVE FUN!" :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

i have to agree with jimbo and corey on this. i really liked how the mfca convention was set up, and how it all worked out. it was great playing different styles, and it was even better meeting everyone. show up, play whoever, wherever, however, with no pressure, just fun.
and i do feel that miggle, and tudor before them, has been the starting place for so many coaches. what else could possibly be done to make rules any simpler for a newbie coach, anyway? miggle rules are as simple as it gets.

2 sets of rules
 

coaches and countrymen.


I think an ideal ruleset seen in black and white will bring a new level of credibility to sport. People (outsiders) will view this as something organized beyond expection. Just like 95% percent of jobs (maybe 100) have a structured floor plan for the employees.

a begginers guide for new coaches

a detailed advanced guide for the veteren's.

THE NFL has there basic ruleset for all teams in every city. If the browns traveled to miami to play the dolphin's. They don't ask the dolphin's do you have any paticular way you want to play when cleveland gets here. and vice versa.

Mr. Unity
 

This ain't the NFL or NCAA...THIS...IS...SPARTA!!!!!

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Had to do that one! :cool: :rolleyes: :D There is no way 175 guys are gonna agree on ONE set of rules. Not unless ALL 5 Major Tourney coordinators get together and hash it out and only have ONE tourney, with ONE set of rules. That'll happen as soon as Marcia Brady admits she...oops...just saw Yahoo News!!! :o :o :o Alrighty then...that'll happen as soon as Adam Jones gets indicted for another bar shooting or bodyguard beat down...DANG! Just saw NFL News!!! What the heck is going on??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Let's just say, THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.

There is one other way...:rolleyes: :cool: ;)

Are we really going to seriously entertain this lunacy?

Because, wouldn't this be a direct and blatant conflict of the stated MFCA Bylaws - it's very foundation for its existence?

If the answer is "yes" to either or both of the above, I'm heading for my easy chair and my box of popcorn. Before I go and enjoy the show, would any of the participants like to request the use of head gear? Probably not. Their foreheads are already well numbed by now so, no need.

CLICKY CLICKY HERE-> Headbutt :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

-Mike Pratt

You gotta learn somehow!
 

There is 2 ways of looking at this.....ONE...from a "veteran league member" you need to play by the rules set while "IN A LEAGUE".......TWO....from a "NEWBIE NON LEAGUE" player, they have to start from scratch.



I bet 7 out of 10 people that start playing this game has played it as a kid at some point so they can adjust to league play. But the other 3 people that just found about this game, doesn’t even have a clue about what or how to run a play. So they go to the local hot spot and watch a league game and get terrified by the screaming and fast pace of the game.



This is where a "Newbie" needs a starting point to get adjusted to playing weather it be at home by themselves or with a few local league mates.



How many "newbie’s" do you know that without playing this game before has come in a league and dominated? without any previous experience...NONE...ZIPPIE...NA-DA



Even the great Adrian Baxter took about 6 to 9 months of "APPLYING HIMSELF" to get re adjusted to playing before he started to win. BUT...he played this game as a kid.



You take a new kid off the street and throw him to the wolfs in league play and I would bet they wouldn’t last a entire year....after about 4 or 5 losses they would toss the game in the attic and pick up another hobby.



The point is simple.......

There should be a starting point to learn the game before you jump in a league for "NEWBIES" that have never played before. For people that have played as a kid or so they will adjust to the league format quicker and not be as scared to play with the big boys.



just my thoughts..........

Only one reason ...
 

That I can see for a single, unified rules set - and that would be if we ever wanted to hold a TRUE national championship tournament or play-off.

World Cup - teams from all over the world, different languages, etc... - play by one rules set.

I kinda think that if they can pull that off - then we could come up with something that would work.

But again - I only see the need if it is for a TRUE National Championship tournament.

And just like all the tournaments out there now - the coach who decides to go and play in it decides to play by those rules.

Now - if the MFCA wanted to create a section (archive) where copies of all the rules sets could be found and downloaded/looked at by newcomers - that would sound like a good idea. That is exactly how my son and I came up with our house league rules - looking at and then picking and choosing the rules we like.

I like the idea of coming up with something new, combining what is out there already, coming together as a group that could be used at our regional events (remember those?) and as A rule set at the Convention. I already like some of the suggestions and am exicited about the process of discussion and voting.

Think about it, if someone comes up to you and says, how do you play the game (simple question, right), "well....." then you have to mention 20 or more different rules played accoss the country. There's a set of rules for every day of the month. Monopoly and Scrabble have the same rules no matter were you play the game. We do have a need for a UNIFIED set of rules.
Why not say: "miniature football has the MFCA, a national organization formed to promote unity in the hobby, we came togeter and 200 coaches from accross the country voted on a new set of rules combining the most common and popular rules used by coaches and NOW we have a unified "Miniature Football" set of rules."

Miggle has their rules. But this is not Miggle, and I for one feel that their rules are too restrictive with all of the innovations and products that have been developed. MFCA rules!!!!!


This type of think-tank, cooperation, participation and unity is what the MFCA is for. Anyone suggestion that the MFCA cannot legally by its by-laws create a set of MFCA rules is mis-interpreting the by-laws and missing the point of why this organization was formed in the first place.

Decision 2008....
 

Bottom line we need to make a decision on this matter. Let's have the moderator set up a Poll.

Question being "should the MFCA create a set of MFCA rules?"

Voted on by paid MFCA members. We vote on election day, Tuesday November 4, 2008. What better way to celebrate democracy than by practicing it here in the greatest hobby in America!!


If 3/4 of the members agree that there should be MFCA rules, then we divide rules into categories, (passing rules, players and equipment, timing, special teams, scrimmage and f, tackling... etc.), establish a separate section on the chatboard for discussion and by January 1, 2009 have the three or four best options for voting by the body.

I Got My Popcorn Ready, Too!
 

And ya know I'm partial to the guy from Indiana!!!