Gopher and Bison Rosters
 

Individual numbers are yet TBD. Some positions may change. Heisman hopefulls are bolded.

Gophers: I dug way back to the very beginning of Gopher football for these guys.
QB/DB Johnny McGovern
RB/C Bruce Smith
RB/T Bronko Nagurski
WR/C Moses Strathern
TE/DB Lorin Solon
TE/LB Clark Shaughnessy
T/LB James Walker
T/LB Fred Schact
G/DL WW. “Pudge” Hefflefinger
G/DL Alfred Pillsbury
C/LB A.J. Baldwin

Bison: These are all Bison alumni that made it to the NFL.
QB/DL Jeff Bentrim
RB/LB Lamar Gordon
RB/LB Tyler Roehl
WR/DB Stacy Robinson
TE/DB Tyrone Braxton
TE/DB Craig Dahl
T/DE Phil Hansen
T/LB Joe Mays
G/DL Mike Dragosavich
G/S Nick Schommer
C/LB Steve Nelson

If time allows later I'll put together media guides for each team. Some of these players have some interesting bios.

Offensive and Defensive schemes
 

Any of you guys know of a resource for actual offensive and defensive schemes? I thought it would be cool to run stuff form my teams in years they won their championships.

DRK
 

DRK,

I will look for some minnesota schemes tonight.

Mantaraydre

Playbooks
 

Go to "fastandfuriousfootball.com " there are over 100 college playbooks>$cch$

drk, we must talk roster
 

DRK

is their any reason why these people are not on minnesota's roster ?

1) #9 TONY DUNGY QB (HEISMANN HOPEFUL) COACH OF COLTS, BUCS

2)#21 MARION BARBER RB (HEISMAN HOPEFUL) COWBOYS

3)RICK UPCHURCH WR (HEISMANN HOPEFUL ) BRONCOS

4)#79 BOBBY BELL , LB-DE / CHIEFS MR ALL WORLD

5)#76 CARL ELLER DE ( I DONT THINK I NEED TO TELL YOUR ABOUT HIM !)

These are some all time incredible players that played their and you left them out. YOU HAVE 3 HEISMAN HOPEFULS UP THEIR !!!!!

MANTARAYDRE

You do know the great ones Dre........
 

.........All the names you listed are very worthy and the case can be made they are more worthy than a number of individuals on my roster; no argument there.

It's the criteria I settled on for my roster that got them. As I started researching Gopher players I found it impossible to not leave someone off who was very deserving with just eleven positions to hand out.

So, I decided to go back to the very beginning of Gopher football and start there.

You already know Nagurski needs no support. He's the only player ever to get All American at two differnt positions in the same season. There was no Heisman when he played or he would likely be a three or even four time winner.

Bruce Smith made the team as Minneosta's only Heisman trophy winner.

McGovern was an All American in 1909 and won the Walter Camp Award. He was known as Minnesota's 'Iron Man'.

Shact was the first Gopher All American in 1903. Strathern followed in 1904.

Walker followed McGovern as an All American and Walter Camp winner in 1910.

Solon and Shaughnessy won All American honors in 1913. Coincidently, a Junior wide out on my highschool team is a Shaughnessy; checking to is if theye're related.

W.W. “Pudge” Hefflefinger was the most famous Yale Bulldog of his time. He was a three time All American but few know he played one season, sort of, for the Gophers in 1887 before starting his career at Yale.

Pillsbury, a huge name in Minnesota history in general, was a founding father of football in Minnesota. He actually played eight seasons for the Gophers from 1885 - 1892.

A.J. Baldwin, captain of Minnesotas first team in 1882, is credited with scheduling the first game in school history on September 28 of that year. He scored the first points in school history and led the Gophers to a 4-0 win over Hamlin.

My team will be coached by Clarence Lester "Biggie" Munn but I'll save that story and other details about my rostered players for later.

I love the early history of football and that's why I went the way I did.

My team inlcudes three of the the teams earliest personalities, the first six All Americans in school history, and the two greatest Gophers ever, Smith and Nagurski.

That's my team!

The Gophers you mention and other greats will have to wait thier turn to be on the Gophers roster in future Row Show seasons. This is is the first Row Show so I decided to go with 'firsts' on my roster as well.

Let The Row Show Roll!

M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A Minnesota, Minnesota, Goooooooooooo Gophers!

Oh yah, forgot......
 

.....Unless you want other wise Dre I'll stick with three Heisman hopefulls. The offense I plan to run will favor those positions.

I'll also add that not all players on the roster are in their actual positions. I put the individuals I wanted on the roster and assigned positions as best I could to what was needed.

Some positions may chnage as I plan schemes.

The same goes for my secondary team NDSU. I haven't done as much with them yet.

same thing
 

Drk,

Im doing the same with south carolina. Im getting players from 1901 and beyond. i have the roster from 1895 to current. I like to develop teams that way. I always liked the old time football scene from pictures and films. Those are the players i like on a team. I found a player named A.M. DEAL who will be the gamecocks starting qb and heismann hopeful. This kind of stuff is fun to me. I never understood doing an all current team. I wil; coach DEAL and make him a star, IF HE HITS HIS PASSES. I was up all night going through the gamecocks history. Those things can take hours but i think it is worth it.

mantaraydre

I agree.....
 

.........I'm having so much 'fun' researching my Row Show teams that actually playing the games will be 'icing on the cake.'

I'll probably wish to hurry to finish the games so I can start researching next year's rosters.

I just love this stuff. I sat and watched Gopher highlights from the thirties for my whole prep period yesterday; shhhhhh, don't tell on me.

Plus; I'm just excited to actually have a chance to run some of the classic schemes from those days.

Miniature Football is what is making this all possible. I LOVE IT!

In fact, my solitaire league is all based on the local history lessons I teach to my sixth grade students each year.

In the future we should do a Row Show league with pro teams from the early days: Bulldogs, Eskimos, Staleys, ect. That would be COOL!


Let the Row Show Roll!

I did not know T. Dungy played QB in College.....Just read his Wikipedia bio...very interesting...Thanks Dre for that info....

MORE TO COME.
 

DRK,

Don't worry, much more will come from all of this. This is just the begining.
Miniature football does give you the opportunity to create many things that is not possible else where. I like this set up because their will never be any disputes over rules or anything like that. just think of the league as a new stadium and all the members were given a huge luxury box suite to create their own world. That's what we have here. Its a great system when you play how you want and all the stats and records are put together as one.
Imagine if we tried to make one rule set, we would still be stuck their trying to please everyone.

1)no fees or dues
2)no travel
3)your very own rules
4)your put together in a league with others.

what more can you ask than that. the fellowshipping in solitaire is just being in a world wide league itself. The conversing here on the chatboard about the league is just as good as traveling and seeing coaches face to face. I said before, if you saw two teams lined up on tv on a miniature football board. How would you know if it is solitaire or anything else. If no coaches were in the picture. Your just setting up the action for both. the players still have to do their thing once the board is on.


mantaraydre

Heisman Hopefuls
 

Dre, I was thinking about the Heisman Hopefuls and it is a great idea but I do have a question about how they will be judged statistically. It doesn't matter what rules we go by to play our games but what about the length of the games. Some of us play by a clock others play by a certain number of plays per quarter or half. There will be some of these players that will be getting more carries, catching more passes and throwing for more TD's than others due to the different length of the games. I guess you could take an average. A 1000 yard rusher with say 15TD's may be equal to a back with 750 yards and 8 TDs. I don't mean to disrupt things. I just had some thoughts. I am really looking forward to this league because it will be the first time I've ever played with college teams. I'm sure things will work themselves out statistically. I would also like to know what statistics you will be keeping track of so I know how to record my games. Thanks Dre.

Mike

row show change
 

coaches,

Please welcome the MICHIGAN WOLVERINES TO THE ROW SHOW.This program will be coached by Ronnie bradley aka 46defense. He is the former coach of the cincinatti bearcats.It's nice to see michigan in the mix, maybe a Tom brady sighting is upon us.

mantaraydre

Welcome Michigan
 

I hear ya Dre. The sky is the limit with what you have started here.

Mike, I've had the same thoughts about the statistics from the various styles of play. I see two possabilities: 1) Just don't worry about it and let it be what it will be, or 2) the best way I see to to even out the differances is baseing the Heisman race on a per carry/touch format.

For example, if Bronco Nagurski gets 10 carries for 100 yards and 2 TDs in his first game and Dickerson gets 100 yards and 2 TD's as well but it takes him 12 carries then Nagurski is doing better. 10 yards per carry and a TD every five is better than 8.33 yards per carry and a TD every six. You could also look at the percentage of the teams total production. Even though the totals may be different the statistics can be analyzed in a way that evens things out.

Let the Row Show Roll!

STATS
 

DWOOD,

Drk got it right. who is the most productive in the least amount of tries.
Someone may give it to a special player EVERY SINGLE DOWN just to run up his stats. Also, are you playing an overall balanced offense..i will be able to tell just by looking at your stat sheets . This is why i ask everyone to record the stats truthful and to the letter. If a player runs the ball and loses yards on several carries, make sure that is recorded. I have dice calling my plays so the ball will be spread around via pass and run pretty evenly. i have no idea what play is being called so from week to week my heismann hopefuls
production will change. i cant approach a game saying im going to give it to
my running back 15 times, or have my qb drop back and pass 30 times.

Only the play from upstairs(the dice) will determine that. lets say my rusher has 78 yards and 1 touchdown with 6 minutes left in the game.
i wan't him to get to 100 yards or more and another touchdown. i can't make that happen if the dice say otherwise. so i can only base his heismann performance for that game on 78 yards and 1 td.


****If you guys have ideas on THE HEISMANN RACE we can have an online open suggestion box right here. I will also post it on another thread to hear ideas from other coaches

There will be more on this topic.
THANX
MANTARAYDRE

Personaly I plan to note every stats on each downs for the skill players (Qb and athletes carrying the ball), using one of those stats sheets.

Air Force
 

You may know that Air Force is now my secondary team but may end up being better than my primary (SMU). If you have been following my posts for my legends league you will see that my Orlando Thunder team is wearing the Air Force uniforms and are doing very well. Based on what I have seen on the field so far I think they may be among the top teams in the country. My SMU team is about an average .500 team so far but they haven't played many games yet. May be too early to tell. Right now I think my Air Force team may be a Top 10 team in the pre-season polls with SMU somewhere in the lower half of all the teams. Perhaps all you coaches may give us an idea of how well you would rank both your primary and secondary teams and Dre may be able to do a pre-season Top 10. You must be honest in your previews.

DWOOD

Good idea Mike.
 

However, I cannot offer any intel on my teams at all. They are still being painted as I type this. All the bases I will be using are waiting for the teams to arrrive so my base recruiting day can be held.

About all I can say that may be helpful is that the 44 of the sixty bases I'll be using were recently purchased from Norber Revels. These bases will be randomly recruited by all my teams. The remaining bases I will tweak myself.