Sweetka, Jim
 

Ken, if you knew who I was referring to you should never have to defend yourself. Secondly any base will Lose there strength. Jim I have seen with my own eyes you and norberts bases getting pushed around out here as if they were playing on ice, by more than 8 or 9 coaches. The first run bases are great, but so are these you just may have to learn how to tweak these differently.

Ken if you are offended that was not the intent, that being said I apologize. Again this is not about egos, it's about the long lasting survival of our hobby, heck I can make ttc bases stronger than first run proline rookies, now what??????? Can I say that these first run proline bases are not good too????

As I see it, it will always be east against the west with little respect for out west. All we know is that the vest tweakers reside out west, we've seen it first hand numerous times watching bases with letters written on the back of them flying backwards with little resistance. There will never be any ground breaking with you guys. I'm done.

If you guys ecer read what I wrote we would not be having this debate. I said the new bases are just as good as the first run proline bases, we somehow out here are able to tweak them better than you out that way, but that's no surprise because we are the better tweakers.

Rick garrison just recieved some bases for his son from Norbert to see how they would do, he gave his son the bases to put on his team, he turned the board on and started laughing at the bases and then made the comment heck I tweak better than this, vince taught me how to tweak. Needless to say those bases were thrown out. So if that is what is being classified as the best tweakers, I wouldn't brag!!!!!! By the way, he is 17 and just started playing electric football last year.

I'm glad we had this conversation, I will not revisit it.


Vincent

Wasn't Offended at all!
 

Vince, again, I don't appreciate my post being lumped with everyone else. Could you please separate my post from others. My post was in support of the SP's and I actually agree that they are better than last year. My main point is that I don't lump people together and my mission in this hobby is to not diss anyone who puts one ounce of energy into the hobby, including yourself. Whatever Jim says is between you and he. I thought we had a POSITIVE dialogue wherein EAST and WEST agreed if that is the perspective you want to look at.

Nothing offends me here because I don't take anything personally. My point was to simply say that I will not judge everyone based upon ONE or TWO people whether EAST, WEST, NORTH, or SOUTH! We are one in my eyes.

With respect to TTC's being stronger than prolines that is a definite yes. Base to Base the TTC is both heavier and more compact. The value of the Prolines in our league went up significantly when we went to 4.0. That weight level allowed not only Prolines, but regular rookie bases to thrive again in our league. If we were playing weight restriction, ie, base to man weight only, you probably would not see many Prolines or rookie bases on my team. In that case I would use a TTC and get the same speed + control + power, as a straight rookie.

The best tweakers are the ones who have their players playing stellar on game day IMHO.

Peace!

Jim, I ask you, please stop disrespecting the West. You are going back and forth with Vince, do not involve the rest of us and drag the entire West down on this forum.

Just as one of your leaguemates said, we are individuals, I am tired of everything leading back to the West being bad with you.

You have regularly trashed us over the last couple of years with no reason. I guarantee if you came out here and played LAEFL Shootout rules you would be hooked. Our rules are years ahead of traditional shootout rules.

Think about it.

Vince is doing something positive for all of us, just as you and Norbert did a last year, just so happens the bases are improving, we all need this.

Please
 

I go back to my original statement, when are you going to show your face at any Show.

Dearell

Dearell
 

Let's see if I can answer your question properly and fairly. I will make an appearance this coming year. I can honestly say it's all economics at this point. Money plays a role and money these days are tight.

However there is an alternative, why don't many of you from your region venture out west for the college open run tournament or better yet play in the PAC 10. At some point players from the Midwest and the south will have to equally participate in our venues. We always have representation from out west at a lot of the tournaments, we are not playing in japan, we are right here in the states. If you guys chose to make more of an effort maybe then and only then would I readily be more available to come towards that region.

I look forward to meeting you one day and gettin a little game on.


The kingpin