internet TV the bomb
 

guys I will be getting my web cam soon going on the internet tv is the bomb now solitare coaches dont have to be alone!!Thier is so much we can do with this games stradegy sessions customs shows tours of guys man caves!! Lets do this!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

This is great to hear!!!
 

Do it Jim!

All it takes is $75 and a laptop!
Reg

Jimmie!
 

Been doing it for years.

I am working on my solitaire Pro League. So far The Chargers, Vikings, and Giants are in it. I will be working on a new system.

I am working running several sets for both squads and draw their plays out of a box to eliminate me wanting to make adjustments for the defense. I figure I will be up and running from June to August. I'll have help with the setup to make the games go faster. I'll be adding some champion Steelers, 49ers, Raiders, Dolphins, and Titans, and Colts. I won championships in the DEFL with those teams.

Once up, look out! I haven't thought of a new name yet.

I am going to keep it to eight teams, 1 division, full games.

So you're going to have a webcam going
 

And everyone can watch you play with yourself?mgngcrz :eek: :confused: :confused: :confused: :rtfl: mtmstnks ppcrn lffng$ :rllngs: wnnrcgr :confused: :confused: mgngcrz rfr$ :mad: :( ;)

I ran out of emotions....LOL Wow!!!!!!!!

Don't know about that one.

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now That's Funny.....

The MFCA has a Ustream account which is open to any member to broadcast over. I don't know if this is helpful to the membership as it is easy to setup your own account, but I am trying to find a way to have any MF shows live streaming show up on the front page of the MFCA website so that anyone wanting to broadcast could join in right there without searching for links. I'm also searching out ways to announce the shows easily on the forum, facebook, and twitter.

How many of you have Ustream accounts. I joined the MFCA account to Reg's and Pirate Ricks crowd. Who else is out there?

Myself and Joe Greco also have U stream accounts.....

National, you can joke...
 

all you want to. I even like the "Play with yourself joke.":rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:
I do that all the time:rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:


But rest assured, there's much truth to what Jimmie is saying here! I am a competition player and a solitaire player. Both have their pluses. Both have minuses (if you see it that way).

What I can tell you about the solitaire player. They are more open to ideas and change than competition leagues. Too many arguments over NOTHING! That's why it take things so long to get accomplish.

At least on the solitaire player, things you might be laughing at or think hilarious may be of great benefit to the hobby. You've got guys in the solitaire game, who I guarantee you, will establish more broadcast stations than competition leagues ever will.

Many competition coaches will begin to watch the solitaire game, ridiculing it on the surface, but wondering beneath the falsities, "Why can't we do that? Wolf is taking an idea I originally had to try to bring to competition leagues. Guys are too lazy to make things happen on a whole. Too slow to change. Many don't think it's worth their time and effort. Unfortunately, they have little or no idea.

I find myself being the trailblazer for many to prosper but I wish just once, y'all would be the inventor instead of the riddler. I will definitely be willing to help guys who want the knowledge to show their games and what they do online and create a voice more stronger than most competition leagues will ever have because they want to show and demonstrate that the game works.

Some of y'all were willing to pay upwards to $500 per person to be on television. Some were ridiculing of anyone who thought otherwise. That gave me the impetus/inspiration to get this on TV - and for free! Now, we've got our own FREE TV! We've got the opportunity to create our own reality show, and our own broadcast station. That's what I am working on with others who see the need.

So you can joke all you want to about what's going on in the solitaire world but some guys are working long hours not just for their own interest, but for the good of the game.

Reg

THE THING ABOUT SOLITAIRE
 

The thing about solitaire,

If another source is calling the plays, your playing against something else like the computer for madden. if you saw two teams lined up and saw no live coaches, how would one know if it were a solitaire game or a competition league game. If you concentrated on watching an actual play develop, isn't that the two teams working via there pre set up and now post result. It takes a certain mindset to understand fully the game of solitaire. If you only like playing in competition leagues, is that a desire to know

1)you can beat someone else ?

2)see if your bases are stronger ?

3)you can out think someone else ?

If you were in jail do you need to be in the yard lifting weights with the rest to see who gets the biggest muscles.?

or


Can you handle being put in the box for awile without going crazy.

One should be able to do both

Cable and a big screen has now been installed in the box. What can one learn when left to create something for themselves.

mantaraydre

How would anyone know if?
 

I did not tell you that I was playing solitaire.

The game can be made into movie form where you really would not know if it was solitaire or competition league play. Even in looking at this video, the only way most would know is because I give captions and information and I am not setting up both the offense and defense at the same time.

This can easily be "doctored" to take that out of the game and you would not even know. That's why it is the most powerful recruiting tool and medium in the game.

When I form my own league, I will make certain that the MFIT is a big part of the what I do.



Reg

Well
 

If I am reading this correctly that would be "Pay Per View". :rtfl: :rtfl:
You won't even see the set-up, none of that. Just the plays like "RedZone".

That's what's rolling around in my head Natl, not my hands! :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

I guess.............
 

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Maybe it's me, but I'm not watching internet to see plays. Im watching to see all the guys heckling and the guys that are online typing trash talk.
The fellowship....now if it's just one person playing, who are you going heckle?

Maybe there's a market out there for it. I don't see it but it may be there. I say go for it, and see what happens. But you left yourself wide open for that jab.
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Nat'l

Corey, I remember so many...
 

hecklers and conspirators about many things I've done in the game.

Everything from hosting tournaments to the Shootout Rule system and using the box were at the top of many people list to try to mock and dissuade others to try. I had guys calling good coaches across the country telling them not to play in the CBSMF, and would swear those calls were never made!:rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

I guess if I would have had that attitude of "Just go away" as so many of my contemporaries wanted, maybe some good things about the game may have never happened.

I thank God I stayed in the fight. But trust me, I was harassed and mocked a many day on these chatboards.

Too bad I don't have that type of spirit to be discouraged. We will have many guys watch. And yes, we run plays just like we run plays in competition leagues. And guys can get on and harass each other in that same manner.

No one form is better than the other form - it's just your preference. I just get this feeling that maybe it's this elitist notion that since you play alone, something must be wrong.

Trust me, the solitaire guy is just as knowedgeable of the game, socially equipped, and intellectually stimulated as guys who may spend months finishing a 10 game season.

It's just preference my friend. I just say, "Don't knock it til you try it". And I hope some of you other Solitaire players are not scared to stand up to nonsensical rhetoric aimed at labeling you!

Reg

DOWN WITH SOLITAIRE.........


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I
 

LOL......

Yeah Mo, you said it!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Get out of those dark rooms and get out and promote the game!!!!!

Grab a league mate, and set up in the mall in front of the Lids, or the memorabilia store.

MF/EF/BB is a sport, it's competition. Solitaire is a hobby. Nothing wrong with either of them. RR I played whole seasons when I was younger. I had all 28 teams back then and played all the way to the SB....still have the records from those seasons. But I had more fun when my cuz came over or we got a tourney going with some of the guys on the block.
Video games didn't die because they got that wifi thing going with playing somebody anywhere in the world just like they were sitting next to you. Nobody plays the computer..........the fun is in the competition.

You will have disagreements with anything. Some guys are worst than others but you know that going in. We all know Kenny Allen has the worst pivots in the game, he knows it. You just have to let him know, and he will adjust them. ppls$ thmbsp$

Unity & Fellowship.....where is that in Solitaire? Play it because you want to play it and you like it. Not because this guy cheats, or they don't want to do it the way I want so I'm not playing with that group.
It's not that serious. Hey I lost to Al in our nfc championship game by a blocked FG...but during that game there were 3-4 calls that could have went the other way (we played without a ref) but I gave him the call. They were bang-bang plays. We could have flipped a coin to decide, but I said go ahead. Did the same thing vs Baxter in the BASH last season. Keith was the ref, he said Baxter missed, Adrian said he hit, I gave it to him....for a td. He misses I win, he hits it he wins, he got the W.

So maybe my problem would be what is your intent behind playing solitaire. Is it because you don't like your group. Or is it that you just like playing when you feel like playing or at your own pace? And this is directed at all solitaire leagues or players?

the Face Of The Hobby, CorEy "National" Johnson

Interesting question.........

Yeah Mo, I'm interested in seeing the answers......
 

Are you that guy that doesn't get picked in the school yard then takes his ball or are you the guy that sucks it up and practices to get better!!!!!!!

I remember bringing that bag of 28 teams up to the rec when I first got back into this...and those guys passed me around like wine-O's passing a 40oz. I was like WOW!!!!! They played nothing like the way I played growing up (which I thought was the best way) they didn't throw with their hand...they used that TTQB:fghttt: :dohdh:
I was like, well if I'm going to play I'm going to have to learn....so I started practicing how to pass! I didn't even run the men or worry about strength or any of that....I felt like advancing the ball down the field thru the air was the way to go, so I just threw passes, not once turning the board on.
i could have said these rules are corny. You guys should play my way, or just played by myself..........but like Billy Dee Williams said in "lady sings the blues"
Success is nothing, without someone to share it with.

Nat'l

Solitaire
 

I tell you guys at this stage in this game and hobby pretty much we are it.You can play this in front of 30.000 but only and hand full will be interested!!As we get older who wants to spend their time with a bunch of middle age men playing a game!!I dont!!But this hobby is more than just playing with each other is just playing the game!!Those who play alone can do so now on the internet showing and entertaining coaches who like it!!Whats the big deal??

I think it's a matter of if you really want the competition. Personally I love competing win or lose because I think it improves whatever I'm doing, but I can certainly see solitaire being a good practice tool.

And lets face it. It's not always easy to get a game going with others if no one is close by.

It's a hobby. There is no wrong way to play. Just have some fun!

It's Pretty Obvious We Are...
 

at an Impasse Mr. National, but let's understand, you came at me - the solitaire coach.

Now for me, I have competed in leagues and have started leagues since I've been playing this game. I could be classified as "the kid who has all the marbles" but those marbles came as a tremendous investment. Chances are, I've given more to this game than 99.9% of the people who presently play this game, so I speak with great conviction and passion of my beliefs.

I think the solitaire coach and competition coach are no different. You're trying to make it seem like just because you play in a league, you're better than me??? It would be safe to say that some of the worst derilects are those who play in leagues. Some of the most unreliable coaches are those who play in leagues. Some of the biggest cheats are those who play in leagues. Some of the worst "slow to change for progress" coaches are in leagues.

And by that same token, some of the best people I have ever met are in leagues. Some of the most ethical people I know are in leagues. Some of the smartest people I know are in league. And some of my best friends in the game are in league.

You are no better than I! Your post wreaks of elitism? Do you not know they all look at us as idiots, as fools, as guys who have never grown up? Don't you know when they look at one guy playing someone else and the players run around in circles, that they think the same whether we play it in competition or in solitude?

I as a solitaire coach can make more progression in the hobby than your league or any league could make in 20 years!!! I've already done so. If your league or any league ever gets to play their games on the Internet, let it be understood that a "Solitaire Coach" introduced the game to the Internet!

I play the game for the fun, the competition, and the chance to discover new things. As my wife and I rode around today, on a Saturday, I remember 16 years of giving up my Saturday to guys who never supported my products or ideas but benefited from them and thought, "******** I feel good going it alone now". "I will never give to those again who don't support me", I thought to myself! But I never thought of it as "taking my ball home".

Yeah I like competition play because I like the intellectual stimulation but I prefer solitaire and the understanding that I can depend on myself to play my games on time and when I want to. At this time in my life, I have no time for unreliability, unethical behavior, lack of hospitality, and so many other things that go in when dealing with others. I soon as rather take my ball home and not deal with it.

These types of arguments are so like many other arguments I had in the past on many subjects. You may not realize it, but every day you get a day older, you are growing closer to playing alone or not at all. It's a natural progression when you do not feel much interest in hanging around others.

I was fortunate that I had the best of both worlds and trust me National, I am definitely finding I have more fun and can do what I want in a world of solitude.

Now Mozeek is my 'Boy and I know he's laughing all the way to the bank on this one! Don't read too much into his statements. He tells you he's beatin' that dead horse to stir the pot!:rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: I am not sure but he probably put the "popcorn" avatar up there too???

But again Corey, I could compete in any way, solitaire or competition league but I would be no better than anyone else in this game. I definitely would be respectful of those who play solitaire too because they add great contributions to the game just like league guys. I say this as a solitaire coach who take pride in all the things I have given to the game.

Reg

reginald dont take it personal my man.....

corey is just nervous of the solitaire movement because if we all switch to solitaire, who is gonna need a NATIONAL personality like him flying around to everywhere in the world....:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: he would be out his job in EF...:rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

we can just do it ourself and save the headaches:rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl: :rtfl:

I use justin TV because it's linux friendly (you can find easy linux wiki documentation about it) you can use external video input (VLC) wich gives you great, great results. I believe you can do the same with UStream, but with my linux computer, I didn't figure it out.

With ustream for mac or windows users, you can also use external programs (calle producer, I believe) wich can allow a better video broadcast than the regular online way.

For internet broadcast, for what I understand (I'm far from a specialist of these things), the best way is to use an external encoder (open source like VLC, or software like the one Ustream offers), and then inject the raw code the external encoder gave you into the broadcat network.

With my 20bucks 640x480 webcam, I was able to broadcast (testing) 480p video, 30fps, with only 3-4seconds delay (to a US server, it's really good) :eek: But I use external encoder. If I use the basic online tools (not matter the broadcast network) the quality decreases dramatically.


Just my two cents on the tech part of the thing.

Concerning the solitaire question, here in france it's simply the only way to play "seriously" for me. I see that the way Dre stated, I believe. For me it's an interactive gameday show, an incredible novel, a roleplaying game. It 's like being the puppet master. You create the rules, you create the figures and teams, and then you put life into it, and see what happens. Good enough for me.

Rick, trust me, I don't take...
 

it personal because I at the end of the day, I get to play the game as often as I like at any hour that I like.

I just have an issue when anyone try to make it sound like they are better than you because they don't do what you do. I think that's an elitist attitude that has no place in MF! The reason being is that it's like when one person of one culture try to denegrade someone of another culture to make themselves look better or feel better about themselves.

We are all "BUMS" in the eyes of "so-called" normal people. We all should grow up in the average person's eyes. There is a movement! Many of the the brightest minds are starting to gravitate towards solitaire. And you know, that's good for the game. These guys are FELLOWSHIPPING and are playing games. The solitaire coaches are showing more UNITY than most have in this hobby.

Remember, we've been disagreeing on a set of rules since I got on the chatboards back in 1995! And now, in the solitaire world, there's unity even in rules.

Pirate Rick, Corey and I are 'Boys! I think he should be in the MFCA Hall of Fame! I nominated him because of his contributions to the game. Corey is stirring up rhetoric, which only helps the solidarity of Solitaire Coaches! He's probably laughing at this post, or smiling, but him and I disagree on a few things but we always consult each other too.

I am not taking this personally but I am having fun with this!


Reg

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The debate about Solitaire
 

Funny that we are debating solitaire this is just another way that folks can enjoy electric football!!Playing historic matchups dream matchups and using it for game simulation are just some of the benfits of this style.Coaches like the french man who dont go to the conventions or have another coach to play with.This is how he can enjoy our hobby!!16 years ago I suggested through my newsletter that we have a national organzation for eflers and we just argued!!Somebody else came alone with that same ideal and you look MFCA came about!! So when the somebody they like comes alone and says I like solitaire then it will be liked by some of these guys!!drl$$

These have indeed been interesting posts....There is A LOT of hypocracy in this hobby. As far as a solitaire "movement", solitaire has has been around for decades. No one invented it by putting it on the Internet. As a practical matter, EVERYTHING is on line now. Look how I-Tunes has changed the music industry, or how Facebook and Twitter have changed our society. So some form of EFL on line is just a natural progression. Nothing new here. If one person hadn't introduced an Internet format, someone esle would have.

Having played in both a league and solitaire I can see advantages and disadvantages to both. I honestly don't think that if ALL coaches played solitaire, even if each an Internet access, it would be of much value. I think the hobby's most redeeming value is the fellowship, and that's hard to experience over a computer screen. I miss just hanging out with men I call friends, but I don't miss a lot of the controversy, arguments, cheating, and child-like behavior that playing seems to bring out. Something about competition brings out the worst in people. But in a way some of the Trash talking a competition and yes, s&*#$ talking is what made it fun.

The way I see it, nothing worthwile comes easy; supporting a good league or even putting on a good tournament is hard. Every coach who participates has to decide for themselves wether or not its worth that sacrifice.

Clearly there is a place for both leagues and solitaire in our hobby.


BTW I too have a U-Stream account- The Spartan Network.

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Well put Steve...good to see you online again.....miss your energy on here.....

Wow!
 

Seems like a lot of mileage for this subject.

I think it's a good way to get my kids involved.

Just my thoughts.

Solitare
 

Steve the one of the value is simply for some it is a way of fellowship man It is so hard to get u all to see of the simplest stuff.Okay for me I would be interest in see a game that you Steve would be playing.I think you have a stadium correct? and just watching the game being played is pretty cool.also say you just wanted to show us your collection,you can do that without me having to drive to Waterford! That would be cool too! Thats all we saying its all about that game and hobby however you like it!! painting playing, leagues what ever it can all be share!!Thats all its about my friend!