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Biglock 03-15-2008 01:24 AM

In competition be a class act not a jerk !
 
In my short time in the hobby, I have been blessed to be exposed to Class A people. The first brawl and the time I was blessed to go to Reggieland I witnessed true competition, The coaches played hard and let anyone who refereed the games do there job, no one argued, cryed about a call or questioned the Refs decisions. When you play be a class act, remember a new or prospective coach maybe watching you, what you do may determine weather or not that person joins our ranks or says man that is too much for me and takes a walk. Be a class act.

jeff 03-15-2008 08:49 AM

ppls$ ppls$ ppls$ thmbsp$ ppls$ :chr:

daghstrydr 03-15-2008 09:04 AM

lock I agree
 
that you have to keep your cool, the games should be played with sportsmanship but what happens when the samethings keep happening over and over, from the other coach? I tell you that I almost lost all bearing and I almost reverted back to my "Outlaw" days, if it wasnt for my grandson being in the same location. Had to just step back, regroup and continue on no matter what happened.



If you really want to know what happen pm me will tell you the story

artlax 03-15-2008 09:50 AM

daghstrydr
 
check your pm

Spartan 03-20-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daghstrydr (Post 32680)
that you have to keep your cool, the games should be played with sportsmanship but what happens when the samethings keep happening over and over, from the other coach? I tell you that I almost lost all bearing and I almost reverted back to my "Outlaw" days, if it wasnt for my grandson being in the same location. Had to just step back, regroup and continue on no matter what happened.



If you really want to know what happen pm me will tell you the story

I know exactly how you feel. I want to play electric football, not feel like I am in some sort of debate competition. Maybe I am wrong on my next point but, I am a little old school in my thinking. I TRUST A MAN AND ASSUME HE IS A GENTLEMAN UNTIL HE GIVES ME A REASON NOT TO (regardless of race, color, creed, rich, poor, short, tall, thick, thin, or location above or below the Mason Dixon Line). I refuse to go through this world thinking everyone I meet is out to cheat me. I may get caught off guard and lose a game over it but, a person's friendship and fellowship means much more to me than little plastic men. So for all of you coaches out there who care about people, God bless you. The unfortunate thing is some people put more value on winning at all cost. God help them as they find themselves sitting alone. . .by their selves. . .in a dark room. . .surrounded by little plastic men. . .with no one to play with. God bless you also. mgngcrz

GrandMasterKC 03-21-2008 12:10 AM

Quite true
 
Coach I find your statements to be true, locquacious and valid. thmbsp$ thmbsp$ As you spend more time playing EF you will find that winning can be the ultimate measure regardless of the carnage that is left behind from that quest. I have found good friends and great mentors in this hobby. We have the basis of a true friendship before and after the games, so our disagreements are about EF not life, so we can harbor issues about the game but be sincere friends inspite of. As my Karate Instructor Master Kevin Thompson states "...when competition begins friendship ends...when friendship begins competition ends" $cch$ $cch$

Spartan 03-21-2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandMasterKC (Post 33289)
Coach I find your statements to be true, locquacious and valid. thmbsp$ thmbsp$ As you spend more time playing EF you will find that winning can be the ultimate measure regardless of the carnage that is left behind from that quest. I have found good friends and great mentors in this hobby. We have the basis of a true friendship before and after the games, so our disagreements are about EF not life, so we can harbor issues about the game but be sincere friends inspite of. As my Karate Instructor Master Kevin Thompson states "...when competition begins friendship ends...when friendship begins competition ends" $cch$ $cch$

I am all about some competition. But the game should never be about how one can twist, bend, or break the rules to get an advantage. Anyone who resorts to these tactics just to win is not a very good ambassador of the game. There is nothing wrong with rivals and hard fought battles on the grid iron. I am not referring to that. I understand that competition may not always be friendly but, it should always be by the rules.

GrandMasterKC 03-21-2008 12:51 AM

I agree coach
 
My point was not that cheating or modifying rules for their benefit is cool....by no means. My point was that expect the unexpected during competition and never under/overestimate a competitors desire to win and what they are willing to do for the "W". (When I say competition I am saying overall, job, karate, basketball, I have coached and I have competed in other sports so this is my overall view for competition and it's possible vises) We want to have fun and play this game with laughter and intensity. When it is all said and done we must be able to look eachother in the eyes and shake hands saying "good game coach"thmbsp$ With out the mental stress that comes from bad calls and questionable ones. I try to know the rules to the best of my abilities so that I can call them as well as recognize them. Importantly enough in time you will naturaly gravitate from the players of this hobby that define rules and games based on their advantage and become closer with the Coaches that are here for the fun and to teach us about our EF. Pardon me if my point was not clear.
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Originally Posted by Spartan (Post 33292)
I am all about some competition. But the game should never be about how one can twist, bend, or break the rules to get an advantage. Anyone who resorts to these tactics just to win is not a very good ambassador of the game. There is nothing wrong with rivals and hard fought battles on the grid iron. I am not referring to that. I understand that competition may not always be friendly but, it should always be by the rules.


Spartan 03-21-2008 01:03 AM

thmbsp$ Your point was clear but your post made me realize that I needed to clarify my post. In my first post, I made it sound like I was upset over a few calls that did not go my way. That's why I posted the 2nd post to let people know that it was something more than that. I know there are all kinds of people out there and some are willing to "lower" their standard for the sake of winning but, I refuse to. I will compete in electric football with the same standards I expect out of the young men I coach (in real life) , win or lose.
You are correct, expect the unexpected. It will not happen again if I can help it.

Fool me once shame on you. . . mtmstnks

Live, learn, and pray for them.

willie shropshire 03-21-2008 07:29 AM

In Competition Be A Class Act Not A Jerk!
 
WELL SPOKEN GUYS! thmbsp$ ppls$ ppls$ ppls$ ppls$ ppls$

GrandMasterKC 03-21-2008 10:17 AM

I agree Coach.....
 
thmbsp$ thmbsp$ ftbll$ hlmt$ hlmt$ $cch$ $cch$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ ppls$ ppls$ frstplc

sweetka 03-21-2008 07:35 PM

Dead on!
 
The irony is you can a ton of decent guys and 1-3 jerks who can take the fun out of the game. It's really sad. Definitely keep the cash flow out. You are begging for trouble if you do that. In bigger leagues you're dealing with team draft position and other amenities. You have to hang in there and fight for the hobby. So if you see it, stop it right away, or you will have two, three etc. People are not just watching that person, they are watching to see what you are going to do to address it!

Good luck, and great post!

Spartan 03-21-2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetka (Post 33396)
The irony is you can a ton of decent guys and 1-3 jerks who can take the fun out of the game. It's really sad. Definitely keep the cash flow out. You are begging for trouble if you do that. In bigger leagues you're dealing with team draft position and other amenities. You have to hang in there and fight for the hobby. So if you see it, stop it right away, or you will have two, three etc. People are not just watching that person, they are watching to see what you are going to do to address it!

Good luck, and great post!

That's a great point. If your league don't put up with the garbage, want be no garbage. At least not for long. It must be shot down when it rears its head. Like throwing a Middle Screen when the D-fence is blitzin the backers.:eek:

Peer pressure does not always have to be used for evil. It can be used for good.

Rock Solid 03-22-2008 08:33 AM

Equality on the sidelines
 
Games are fun when both coaches know the rules. Games are not fun at all when you are put in a position by your opponent to be constantly pointing out offenses. Offsides, delay of game, illegal formation, and other offenses made over and over in the game just bleed the fun right out of the game.
I would like to add that because someone is reffing the game does not mean they know the rules.
I was signing up my son for Pee Wee football this past week. In the school was a banner.

HONESTY--- standing up for what is right, Even if you have to stand alone.


Protect the rules , act with respect for the game, KNOW the rules.

We all make mistakes, we all can see a rule in a different light. Communication about the rules before the league starts or the tournament begins is way more important to unity and equality than talking about what we could have done after it is all over.

Off to visit the guys in Phillly and their mid season eat fest.

Rock Solid

GrandMasterKC 03-22-2008 09:30 AM

well spoken Coach and my most inspirational mentor.....
 
...and again I agree that in time knowing and learning the rules will make the coach a better person in EF and I have learned that in time that situations will manifest and remanifest themselves in games time and time again, but that is when the understanding of the rules and integrity will make a major difference in how this game is percieved and enjoyed. I believe that a good conversation after the game is essential for it reestablishes the friendship after the competition. Places us back in the light of humble human beings and not competitors.fr$ rfr$ "Lets just play"thmbsp$
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Solid (Post 33425)
Games are fun when both coaches know the rules. Games are not fun at all when you are put in a position by your opponent to be constantly pointing out offenses. Offsides, delay of game, illegal formation, and other offenses made over and over in the game just bleed the fun right out of the game.
I would like to add that because someone is reffing the game does not mean they know the rules.
I was signing up my son for Pee Wee football this past week. In the school was a banner.

HONESTY--- standing up for what is right, Even if you have to stand alone.


Protect the rules , act with respect for the game, KNOW the rules.

We all make mistakes, we all can see a rule in a different light. Communication about the rules before the league starts or the tournament begins is way more important to unity and equality than talking about what we could have done after it is all over.

Off to visit the guys in Phillly and their mid season eat fest.

Rock Solid


detroitchild 03-22-2008 10:05 AM

Question/Comment
 
I think that a number of you coaches raise some good, great, interesting points. Like many on this forum and around the country I'm a person returning to this hobby after being away many years. My question is this, do those of you in leagues have a kickoff meeting before the season to go over rules, behavior and expectations for the league/season? Do you guys have an exhibition season (it could be a one game scrimmage) to make sure new coaches understand league play...or new/veteran coaches understand adoption of new rules? Are rule books handed out and assumptions made that everyone will interpret them the same way? I totally agree that in competition one should be a class act, not a jerk but making sure to set expectations, and letting people know at the onset the way things are may help keep the competition as "classy" as possible.

Just my 2 cents worth.

DC


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