Our Meeting With One Monstrous Coach!
 

Last night, myself, wally jabs and grandmaster kc met with the great BARRY STEVENSON in a hotel in new jersey. he has taught us mind boggling things about this style. There are many things in this style of play you can do that makes this hobby a serious chess match. The audibles, the switching in and out the this the that. Everyone who is goibg to play this style needs a sit down tutorial with BARRY. I was unaware of all the things you can do with your QB. "YOU CANT PICK THIS STUFF UP BY JUST READING THE RULE BOOKS.

To come in the league last year and learn the rules on the fly is impossible.
You need a sit down with, barry, mike or reg. IT'S MIND BLOWING all the offensive sets you can devise in this style of play. BIG THANKS TO BARRY AGAIN FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SHOW US THE WAY. You literally have to coach your butt off and be aware of what the off and def is giving you.


Now that i understand the ins and outs of the stationary qb and what it can do for you, the games will be alot more fun the next time. WALLY was blown away also and extremely impressed at this style. ONCE YOU GET THE CLOCKS DOWN AND KNOW WHAT FORMATIONS YOU CAN USE, LIFE WILL BE ALOT EASIER FOR YOU.

One tidbit is i never knew when the off audible's and the def gets to move one man, you can pick up the nose tack or the def ends and place them where you need them. If a coach audibles and is going to sweep left, just take the NOSE TACKLE and put him on that side of the field. You dont need him in the middle because the play is going left.

I hope wally, karim, mike, reg come on here and elaborate more.

"WHAT A UNBELEIVABLE LESSON THAT WAS TAUGHT TO US FIORST HAND !


ATT DARRIAN AND ALL OTHER ROAD WARRIORS, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS STYLE, ASK THEM RIGHT NOW ON THE CHAT. IM SURE THEY WILL ELABORATE ALOT MORE ON WHAT YOUR OPTIONS (NO PUN INTENDED) ARE AT QB OR OTHER POSITIONS.

I GUESS REG KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ALL ALONG (LOL)

THANKS AGAIN
MANTARAYDRE

Dre,

Good post! As we spoke last night, Reggie has come up with a rule set that really sets in motion the ability to be creative. I am very happy that we chose to go with this rule set. After getting some one on one time with Barry last night and watching the DFWSB DVD. You can really start to see some of the strategy that can be employed in this system. This is going to be a great season!

Wally

Great Report guys!!thmbsp$ thmbsp$

Great to See You Guys Got There
 

I am very glad to see you guys were able to meet with Barry! Barry is one of the best ambassadors in the DFW League and hopefully, he will make his presence felt more on a national level.

Barry knows me probably as well as most and when he speaks in terms of the rules, he is well-educated on the do's and don'ts of the rules. He can articulate things probably better than me and he is very patient when sharing the information. I am sure yall saw an energy, a type of glow, that was missing in the DFW for his 7 year hiatus away from the league.

Wally, I remember when you came to my house and hung out. We did not have that much time to really go through any of the rules but I am happy that you embraced them along with the rest of the league.

I continue to say, if you keep the rules in their pure form, the benefits will be tremendous!

Like my good friend and brother JIMBO said, you can talk about it for days but proof is needed. I have talked about the rules and tried to show people but they've got to be willing to listen. You guys were willing to listen and learn. We set no limits or boundaries on football strategy. If you can do it in reality, we want to try to simulate that in our game. Granted, none of this is real for I for one still look at this as a toy. A toy that I get lots of satisfaction out of.

But as a strategist, I hope you guys were able to see the need to have balance on the defense, or using high-risk stacking manuevers, or why we don't worry too much about boat bases or stacking receivers. I hope yall saw the importance of the audibles or spending time working on 2nd and 3rd string players or how a game can change in an instance on a penalty or fumble. I hope yall saw that in this style, power is nice but don't think just because you are stronger than your opponent, it matters that much.

Measures were taken to balance out all those things. Remember, these rules are 34 years old so they've gotten plenty of use. My league back in Memphis still swears by these rules!

So yes, inquire and ask the question. There are so many brilliant coaches that play under this style in the DFW that you should ask. From Don Hudson, DeWone McDaniel, Pep Woods, Oscar Woodard, "RD" to the Michael Robertsons, Barry Stephensons, and RJs can offer insight to their own experiences and strategies to win in this style of play.

Thank you all for taking the time to come out visit, share, learn and offer valuable insight.

Reginald Rutledge
DFW Founder 1995

Reg, Barry, Dre'
 

Getting to watch the Superbowl DVD I had most of my questions answered. I just have to practice. But I do have one question? Once you call an Audible can you move a slot wr up on the line and another back. And if so can he be pivoted during the shift?

Darrian

Once receivers are set in a position...
 

that's it for them.

Only the players between the tackles may be moved around. The QB and 2 backs.

My logic here is that in our system, it takes up too much extra time and you probably can make that decision to tun a player before the play ever started so go ahead and get that done. It just frees up 10-15 seconds here and there which impacts the efficiency of the game.

We don't refer to it as shifts or pivots. We literally pick the players up and move them around the backfield. Have you seen how a back will start in the Power-I and move into the Pro-set. We are just trying to simulate that.


I know the question becomes "Why them and not the receivers". Simply, time is always of the essence and efficiency is the utmost important to quality in a game for us.

Reg

Again I have been blessed with more knowledge about the game......
 

I just got up from last night...thmbsp$ thmbsp$ It was a great pleasure to be amongst family again, Coach Jabs, Dre, lil jabs and the Great Coach Barry.S. From the moment upon arrival, I felt the electricity(:rolleyes: no pun intended:rtfl: ) in the room. They were running plays and calling audibles and making simplicity out of a system that appears complex but has amazing options each and every play. Having a little scrim time with Coach Dre helped us both get a feel for how this system really works and for me it is an amazing system. After my NY brothers had to head back, I discovered a "free coffee" machine:D :D :D and it was on. Coach Barry has that spirit like most of the great Coaches I have been blessed to sit down with...he teaches you as you develope, meaning once you have a better feel for perhaps a pass play he will then show you all of the options that come with passing, just as the run, he even gave me a lesson on Texas style loopers. Hey they hit but with the weight:mad: :mad:they hit even harder. I Had a ball. I got to get my guys up to weight, indeed it is a great difference. Coach Reggie gave us a call around midnight and offered his wisdom on the game. Coach Jabs, Coach Dre..thanks for the invite into another element of the EF experience. Thanks Coach Barry for schooling me and an extra special thanks to Coach Reggie.R for sharing this gift with the EF world.thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$

Coaches I will see you in May.

Reg that's fine with me.. I just didn't see it in the DVD so I didn't want to assume anything. Like I stated I'm in the practice phase now. If I think of anything else I'll post it.

Darrian

dre this is very important...
 

Please please please do not be fooled by the audible. Have you ever heard a QB call an audible at the line of scrimmage but the play is the same play that was called in the huddle? Good QB's such as Peyton Manning & Tom Brady call audibles just to get a reaction out of the defense. Maybe the defense initially was in a position to make a play on the initial call but the audible allowed the QB to get a reaction out of the defense which created a better opportunity for the play to be successful. This method is used by the great in the DFW league. If you're plugging the middle and I know that you have a tendancy to react to audibles I may call an audible that looks like a designed run play to the left but in actually its a QB sneak up the middle because my audible caused you to react by moving your nose tackle out of the middle. You still have to play honest in this style of play. A better move if you read run would be to move your safety up, if you suspect play action then instead of moving your safety up rotate a linebacker but whatever you do play honest. Aggressive also works but you have to have lots and lots of speed because you will pay defensively for being too aggressive but if you get him to turn the set off fast enough you may still be in position to make a play on a situation in which you gambled.

we can speak all day on this stuff in the DFW! I have lots to share so any of you guys can call me up and we can speak strategy, techniques, rules, whatever you want!

I agree
 

Mike I can't agree more with you. I don't move the interior Def unless there's a unbalanced line shift or a stunt with the Lb.
Dre' as I watched the DVD I noticed the shifts and counter shifts. And even though both coaches are seasoned vets in the DFW there was a lot of open plays for runs and passes. So don't out think yourself play YOUR game and make the other coach adjust to you.

Darrian

Here's one of the greatest keys in how Mike and I...
 

run defensive schemes.

At least, one of your safeties are always in open space. Some teams run deep zone coverages where the safeties are 30 yards off the line coming forward. My defensive schemes are more aggressive with the safety playing 8 yards off the line and the other more in a roverback position keying on the tightend.

The middle is never left open in the D-Line unless I am baiting the coach to run a sneak. Sometimes you rather have a sneak happen on you instead of getting on the edge. That's where more damage can be done because you have less congestion.

But if you have a safety in open space at the start of the play, it at least lessen the likelihood of a team running a toss or sweep to that side of the field.

And like Raven Maniac said, there are still a lot of running lanes and passing lanes to do major damage in this style of play. You've just got to be able to execute when the time comes.

Reg

Great Insight From The Dfw Coaches
 

can you guy's touch upon the ins and outs of the stationary qb. Why do you put him at various points


Also, how do you run a draw play in this style. Can a draw be treated somewhat like the qb scrambe ? two per half.
RB ON A STATIONARY WHILE THE OTHERS RUN A FAKE SWEEP. HOLE OPENS IN THE MIDDLE AND YOU PUT THE RB ON A MOVEABLE BASE TO HIT THE HOLE RATHER LATE.

What else is possible that we wont grasp from the rule book.

MIKE AND REG, WHAT PLAY'S HAVE FAKED YOU OUT OVER THE YEARS ?

WHY CAN'T HUDSON'S PASSING GAME BE STOPPED ?


MANTARAYDRE

Dre? Great questions my friend!
 

The stationary QB is weapon himself. If you have the stationary QB in the shotgun and you have 5 WR in the game it looks as if you are going to stick it up in the air for a pass. However, after the play clock runs out you may switch in your mobile QB and run a QB sneak or draw up the middle. This does not count as an audible if you place him in the exact same place where your stationary QB was located and facing the same direction. Therefore, spreading the defense with 5 wide receivers gives you a huge advantage running the QB and this does not count as a scramble. Scramble occur when a play has started and the QB is on a stationary base. If he starts out mobile you may not call scramble because he is already scrambling.

The Running back draw play is really sweet! I ran this a couple of time against Stephenson in the super bowl and it went for big yards. The draw is effective but the defense has to give you the right look. Some teams run a 3-4 defense others run a 4-3 or a 2 stack. The draw play is most effective versus the 2 stack defense.

Against the 2 stack defense you should start off in the eye formation causing the defense to stuff the middle or start start off in the pro-set with your backs flaring to the outside. If he is playing honest, when its time to audible you will notice the offensive tackles are uncovered. Audible both backs at least 2 yards behind each tackle. The defense can only audible one player. Now you can call a draw to the back lined up behind the uncovered tackle.

As for what has faked me out? Hmmm. I'm not beyond getting tricked a time or two but I am so accustomed to the rules that it takes a lot. However, I will tell you what has been most effective against me. When you line up in EFL you always know where 9 of the 11 offensive players are. The two most dangerous players on the field are the 2 RB's in the backfield that get a free shot down the field. They are very dangerous in our league. Weather its a screen play, a throw to the flats, a dive up the middle, a play action pass, whatever. They have proven to be the most dangerous and most effective players on the field. In the era of who is the strongest, the player that gets a free run without being engaged is the most effective player on the field most of the time. If you don't believe me, check your stat sheets! Lol

As for Hudson? Why can't his passing game be stopped. That's simple! He is pinpoint accurate! The guy can hit a fly sitting on your sandwich. He is that good. He practices hours at a time. However, just like tom Brady and Peyton Manning, there is a formula to beating him. Attacking defense and a good running game will give him fits. If you keep the ball out of his hands how can he score? The more possessions that he gets though the more dangeroous he is. It is imperative that you reduce the amount of his possessions. Unless you can match him score for score the game will get real ugly real fast against Hudson.

Mike Robertson

Strategies that faked me out
 

I think the most complex minds that I have played in this style has been Michael Robertson and Oscar Woodard. Oscar, because he studies what you are doing to him and come back with very interesting adjustments.

He has this one runner, Eddie George where he starts him out of a Power I way deep in the backfield but allow another player to hit him in a specific spot to create a sweep-type play. Sometimes over the years, that was a problem.

As far as Mike, it is his trap play. He will not tell me all the secrets of it. I sometimes defend it well and other times, it's difficult to see where the block is coming from until his runner is 15 yards up the field and I am asking him to shake the box.

I think my bread and butter offense (especially on 308s) allow me to do wide splits and run screens, draws, and the hurry-up offense. The "Hurry-Up Offense" is something I practice alot and to pull it out on the other team when they least expect it can be devastating. But you definitely have to have the athletes to take it the distance when you use this wide split manuever and snap the ball in less than 15 seconds.

As far as Hudson, we recognize Hudson as the greatest passer in DFW history but he will tell you like anyone else in this league, he can lose too. He's had his share of losses as we all have. The differences in his passing is not too different from any of the champions. They all hit the difficult passes when it is championship play.

You have to have the right type of athletes as far as CBs, outside LBs, and safeties to contain what this man does. It is lethal but Mike and I play very similar schemes which are built around certain keys. But yes, if you have never played Don and not know his legendary passing ability, it could get ugly real quick. He's one of those you love to play because he will test your ability as a defensive coordinator.

Reg

Dre
 

I am not sure if the DFW has the hut call, were you say hut and the def has 10 sec to react to your off. but hte play you have set is the play you run. but it can be a pass or run. MIKE OR REG CORRECT me if i am wrong. we do it in the LAEFL.


BRONCOMAN

Coach Barry showed me this last night........
 

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Broncoman you are correct...
 

This is the EFL version of the no huddle or hurry up offense. Reg runs this to perfection and I hate it! He gets me every single time with this. He will beat you up, even sacrifice a play or two with a sweep left, or a quick screen off the wide splits (spread offense). Suddenly after 3 or 4 plays when you think you've got the wide splits figured out he hits you with the hurry up offense and he is in a 5 wide receiver set. You don't realize it until its to late because he just said "set" and now you're rushing your nickel and dime coverage onto the field with only 10 seconds left to line up. He hits you with a quick snap and receivers are open all over the place! Reg is the master at this. I hate it! Lol. I'm still trying to master this myself but I am definetly not as good as Reg at setting the defense up for this.

I can help you with this a bit but if you really want to learn how to run the no huddle offense Reg is the man. He could probably help you build your team around the "no huddle" offense and you could run that each and every play confusing the defense. Its a lot easier to run the trap and the screen off of this. So much stuff opens up off of this because a fast set up time allows the defense to make mistakes.

The Options and Things You Can Do are Limitless
 

When you began to play in this system, you quickly realize the simplicity of the game but the complexity of strategies that can be used. I always believe that you can tell if a person is being fulfilled by the challenge of gaining knowledge through strategical interface based on whether he would be willing to travel great distances to play a game. Thus, we are very fortunate and honored to have you guys willing to come to Texas to discover things about the game that these rules bring you. You either want that challenge, thrive on competition, or think it will be easy. Whatever the case may be, it will entertain you and you will be going back home yearning for a return trip. Ask Kevin Boddie or Joel Pritchard! These guys had such a great time discovering things and had great attitudes about wanting to learn that it made it so easy offering any knowledge we could. And what was great is they shared knowledge and strategies with us.

This is one of those styles of play that you are rewarded based on your ability to think strategically in a quick manner, have the skill to pass and kick with great precision and accuracy, and your ability to assess talent and put that talent in a spot to be successful.

One aspect of what is so important is to know that the initial formation can be deceptively "false". Like Mike and Barry said about disguising what's ready to happen, when you have the 35 second clock putting pressure on you to make a quick decision, it can either be heroic or devastating.

Shown below is a a phase of what the simplicity of a play formation looks like under my scheme. Remember, I am the only one that run wide split formations 70-90% of the time. I believe it is the easiest way to matriculate down the field and put pressure on the defense.

You see the initial formation for both the offense and defense. Then you see the audible of the backs and the defensive team may move a safety to plug one of the holes or the backer over to that spot. Unfortunately for him, he only has the 1 move.

Then you see a ground-level view of the width of the holes. What's important is you have no idea how the linemen are going. I may be letting the tackles kicking out on the LBs or they may be sealing the DTs to create a little seam. The important thing here is take what they give you so obviously, with the D bringing the safety up on the right side, I would be trying to make something happen off the left tackle and left guard reads, whether it is a pass or run.

Simple solution: Always go where they are NOT!

Great Insight, Pics, Thoughts Etc Etc
 

Coaches,

this is excellent stuff to know.

reg, it looks like that cowboy d-line can shoot the gaps on that jet o-line.

Any thoughts on perfecting the sweep and swing pass out of the backfield.
if the entire country knew the way the dfw coaches played, we would have
100,000 members. Just reading this one post enable's you to see this is some real football. I hope mike and reg keep going with their wisdom.

Im sure barry will be on this post shortly. where is RD, tell him to get on here with it's insight.

HOW CAN I RUN A LEGAL

1) WR REVERSE OR RUNNING BACK RECEIVER REVERSE

2) CAN YOU PUT A RECEIVER IN MOTION AND HOW ? YOU CANT MOVE A RECEIVER DURING AN AUDIBLE

3) HALF BACK PASS, CAN THIS BE DONE.

PLEASE TOUCH APON HITTING A RUNNING BACK OUT OF THE BACKFIELD.
HOW CAN THIS START OUT ONE WAY AND TRIP UP THE DEFENSE THE OTHER

****This is one of thr greatest post of all times

keep going, im sure coaches will print these thoughts out for future references. "THIS IS LIKE DFW SUMMER SCHO0L, VERY VERY EDUCATIONAL

THE WIT AND TRICKERY YOU GUY'S HAVE IS INCREDIBLE

MANTARAYDRE

How do you know where the O-Line is going?
 

Many teams try to play gap control against the spread but it becomes difficult because if you put the D-Linemen in all the gaps, I can change the dials on the bases to go straight ahead coupled with the audible of putting the runners behind tackles or guards that can go straight ahead.

This is the basis for the screen pass or draw plays.

The sweeps are easy but it must be disguised to perfection. You can roll that QB out with a fast TTC Guard where the base is turned around backwards and turn the both the runner and fullback towards an end. Remember, the D has one move.

Reg

2008 Rule Book Coming Out Soon
 

To all Shootout Rules Based Leagues:

The new 2008 13th Edition Shootout Rule Book will be coming out in the upcoming weeks. This rulebook will have all the amendments including changes to the "Dropped pass", "Punt and Kick-off" changes, Penalty severity, etc.

If you play in the DFW or BAM, this is a must! You need to know the rules! Barry Stephenson is assisting in the quality assurance aspects. Once he has done his thing, the rules will be ready for release thereafter. We are trying to keep it at 100 pages or less! It is important that you ask questions or ask for demonstrations on what's ready to come your way!

If you need a copy, let us know!

Reg

Copy needed Coach
 

ftbll$ thmbsp$ Copy needed

Reg,

We need the updated rule book asap! After playing with Barry and discussing the rules. It looks like we need an update. The rules I have are from 2004 and not up to date.

Wally

Part 1-Break Down of Running a Quick Toss Using the West Coast Offense
 

I need one
 

If you need a copy, let us know!

Reg[/quote]

Reg and Barry I'll need the updated rules book.

Darrian

Barry's probably
 

looking at this as well!

Working on it....
 

Those awaiting reprint of Texas Shoot-Out League Play Rules; I am hashing through it and hope to be done with that by Wednesday of this week. I will compare notes and shoule be able to launch out the updated version by weeks end or the weekend. thmbsp$ Reg wil most likely be able to post the new one to footballfigures.com as well soon... Barry

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