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texastimetraveler 07-24-2008 09:13 PM

New football formation, 2 QB's
 
check this out!!!

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031

eagskerfan 07-25-2008 02:19 AM

anybody installing this offense with their miniature teams in your next upcoming seasons? :)

dallcow4life28 07-25-2008 08:40 AM

Another reason...
 
why the state of California dominates high school and college football--innovation!ppls$

I actually used to play football and baseball against Piedmont back in the day. They had three or four autistic kids on the baseball team back then. I once started a bench-clearing brawl when I beaned one of the autistic kids in the head with an 89 mph fastball--calm down everyone--I DIDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE!:rtfl:

WallyJ 07-25-2008 10:34 AM

My hats off to those coaches. The willingness to try and develop this offensive scheme is very refreshing. I'm sure that this offense will keep opposing coaches some sleepless nights.

NEW CASTLE HiTMEN 07-25-2008 01:15 PM

How can all those receivers be legal. The article talks about having just one center and a tightend lined up on either side. :confused: That would make nine eligible receivers. The "o" has seven men on the line of scrimmage but all are eligible. :confused:

dallcow4life28 07-25-2008 01:48 PM

Only 5 receivers are...
 
eligible for downfield passes. The others can still be used to catch balls thrown behind the line of scrimmage, or laterals--they cannot go downfield for passes, though--it is totally legal, though a headache for the refs, i'm sure.

eagskerfan 07-25-2008 02:03 PM

That's what I gethered from it as well. On different plays, different receivers/TE's will be lineman and different ones will be lineman. I'm not sure what their playcalling verbage would be for that, but it is interesting to see. There is a web page with some info on it.

NEW CASTLE HiTMEN 07-25-2008 02:20 PM

So a lineman can catch a pass behibd the line of scrimmage but not a forward pass? Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder if the receivers have to report to the refs that they are eligible or not?

JIMBO 07-25-2008 08:03 PM

Actually...
 
...there technically are no linemen. Everyone is wearing an eligible number and depending on the playcall, anyone could be eligible - 5 downfield and the other 5 behind the LOS!!!

Could you imagine seeing this on Sundays?

Rice...Lofton...Monk.................Winslow...Web ster...Novacek.................................... ..Carter
.................................................. ................................................Ow ens...Moss.........
................................................K. Stewart...R. Cunningham................

Shabby J 07-26-2008 09:15 PM

It's ridiculous, I hope it stays where it is and never see the light of day!

:mad:

JIMBO 07-27-2008 07:50 PM

Further Explanation
 
Shabby, don't worry, it can only be used in NCAA on 3rd and very long situations. I'm curious as to the specific verbage the NCAA uses vs. the HS level to prevent this.

I wouldn't be so harsh, it was a brilliant way to overcome bigger, stronger teams ala App. St. vs. Michigan or even boiled bases vs. out of the bag. Yeah, I went there! ;) NOTE: BEFORE ANYBODY GETS THEIR PANTIES IN A WAD....I've been there done that, so if you haven't, please refrain from replying because slamming boiling WAS NOT the point!!! thmbsp$

After doing some HEAVY research on the topic, I found another source that's not affiliated with the purchase of the system.

http://swsentinel.blogspot.com/2007/...1-offense.html

JIMBO 07-27-2008 08:24 PM

Here's A Site From The Ref's Pov.
 
GOOD STUFF! Even Refs fight and argue over certain topics!!! :rtfl:

http://forum.officiating.com/showthr...t=39748&page=2

Shabby J 07-27-2008 10:11 PM

Jimbo, I guess I am too "old school" to wrap my mind around this. I do respect your opinion though and thanks for the caveat about the "boiled Base" comment.

That seems to be a a topic that brings a knee jerk reaction from a lot of people.

Let's not go there on this post please, I agree.

JIMBO 07-27-2008 11:06 PM

Better Example
 
Here's another example: untweaked, out of the bag standard rookies vs. tweaked TTCs.

It is a hard concept to fathom. Even the Refs are yelling "heresy!" I'm only on post #30, but they are raising Cain over the subject. :rtfl:

Crusader 07-28-2008 05:34 PM

LSU back in the mid to late 70''s ran an offense featuring 2 QBs in the
backfield. The only difference one of the QBs would lineup under
center the other at a tailback position whether in a full house
backfield or two man set. Off the pitch or handoff the other QB has
the option to run or pass. If you ran a veer the QB if he kept the ball
could take a step past where the FB ran through the line then follow
the FB. It forces the defense to cover more ground and less aggressive.$cch$


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