Basic formation and questions
 

below will be a couple of formations from this weekend.

you tell me where the ball is going and why.....


or

what was the reason this play worked or not worked

in picture one
 

offense 3-wide with strong side left...........

defense no blitzers to speed up the play.........

what was the end result?????

in picture #2
 

offense - power I formation

defense - 4-3 swarm

who won the battle?????????

Quick pass to the weakside or QB sneak
 

thmbsp$

Offense..won
 

up the gut do you seethe 5-O on 2-D:eek:

Hhmmm!
 

Pic # 1 - Run the RB off tackle or a swing pass to him out in the flats behind the 2 WR's. Could work for good yardage based on defensive setup.

Pic # 2 - Pitch to trailing back to the outside. Need to see other defenders alignment outside of picture but it looks like the percentage of this O-formation working is low. To many defenders to account for. Now if you turned the RB the other direction for a counter play then it could work.

Great stuff coach!

good stuff, but not yet
 

keep looking..... you can see the breakdown of the schemes in both pictures

one is offense and one is defense....both turned into big plays of the game.

any more beore we post up the answers??

well, the first picture has one on one coverage to the strong side, with all of the safety help going towards the weakside-2 receivers. i would try and get that receiver open and pass to him downfield, he could break it without any safety help back there.
the second one looks like a run attempt, but the olb and the safeties have the rb's keyed in and are in good position to stop the run. if i were on offense on that play, i would try to pass to the tight end #84, he has 1 on 1 coverage wjth the safety, there is a possibiltity of a mismatch and the tight end getting open in the end zone.

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Pic 1 - hit running back in the flat on the right (defenders have over pursued).

Pic 2 - Defense won, guessing LB on offense's left came around the corner.

The offensive play in #1 looks like a disaster as it is set. I think the receiver on the far right will be turned in and bring the corner with him. The receiver in the slot has a guy running with him in coverage. If the running back can make a wide arc to the right sideline area, that would be a big play as that zone will be empty. Another option is to audible and run to the left.....the odds look good there.

#2 doesn't look good for the offense if you stay running left....the numbers are not in your favor. If you could pivot the runner to get behind the right taclke and right guard, that looks very good, but the defensive audible would probably nullify that.

answer to the play calls Pic #1
 

Well, only one coach picked up the simple math of this alignment.

offense has the strong side WR in a 1-on-1 matchup without safety help.

VERY BAD DEFENSE.........
L.Fitzgerald blow pass the corner for a 55 yd TD pass....too easy.....

play #2 results
 

the call on this on was to run to the outside, but too many defenders were there. the key block was by the FB on the OLB which took both him and the SS coming up (#21). Earl Campbell planted and cut up inside and got smashed..........


k-lo

Been a long time...
 

... since I played football (H.S.) and don't remember all of the terminalogy.
What detrmines strong and weak sides of a formation? is it having more offensive players on one side of the center as opposed to the other, or the tight end? Or is it determined by the allignment of the defenders?

A refresher please....

P.S. I would have been tempted to run on Play #1 also.....
Great post!!!

in these formations it is the positioning of the tight end in relation to the center. tight end lines up on the left side of the line, that is the strong side, right side same thing. if there are two tight ends in the formation and they are lined up on either side of the line, it can be called a strong formation, or jumbo package, because of the extra blockers on the line.

what he said........


..... that means more posts are needed to give some more explanations of some things.....

.... as soon as I can get my "pointer" to work, I will add some directional patterns to some of the pictures to help those who may need it.

k-lothmbsp$ thmbsp$

You know K Lo.....I have some corners who I can leave on an island like that all day....it just depends on the opponent. So, what looks like a slam dunk isn't always a slam dunk. One on one match-ups aren't always bad.......risky, of course, but sometimes you take a risk in one place to give yourself advantage elsewhere....do you remember what happened on the right side of that #1 offensive set during the action? Did the running back also shake free?

I have corners who do that as well..... but it says more about the WR than the CB...

Our league uses a "pass play timer" that runs the board for 3 seconds. THAT'S IT... your WR/TE/RB better be open or your play is dead. thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ thmbsp$ ftbll$ ftbll$ ftbll$ hlmt$ hlmt$ hlmt$

On the backside of the play, I did not follow it to the end because I was watching the TD play.

How Then...
 

How can a trailing team possibly run a Hail Mary on the last play if need be with ONLY 3-seconds of board time? Let's say from their own 20. All the Defense has to do is rush 3 and play 8 Deep!?! Offense has ZERO chance to drive thru his defender and weave thru that minefield! Not to mention the OL gets no credit for being able to hold their blocks longer.

I'm not ripping your rules, I just wanted to delve into the thinking behind that one, Lo! thmbsp$

I have a question about the 3 seconds also.
Can you shut the board off before the 3 seconds expire ?

yes you can stop the board whenever you want, but it will not stay on more than 3 seconds on a pass play.

thanks for the comment, Jimbo....no ripping, thanks.

Since we play FOB (front of the base) tackle, I don't think that (hail mary) was considered in the rules.....

k-lo