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Biglock 05-21-2008 03:06 AM

misconceptions and misunderstandings in our hobby.
 
hi my EF/MF brethren
From time to time I like to look at our hobby with a wide view, now this post is not meant to single out any indiviual or group, it is my way of just sharing what I feel, as of late I have been looking at what we have,who we are and our overall direction, EF/MF is strong, with new hobbyists, new styles of play and with guys putting out DVDS and internet tv capability we should grow even more in the future, peeps know as of late the SFEFLOC was restructured to go 4.0, now I have had some positive feedback and negative, but on the whole it was best for us, but in doing things sometimes you lose support of people you may have had close relationships with, to anyone reading this blaze your own trail, this hobby has alot of uneccesary people worship, I too have been guilty of this, but after revaluation of where I was and where I wanted so Flo to be in the EF/MF world I had to clean up my yard, there are great people in this hobby, but still it is just a game, weather a person is a great coach, player, figure artist , painter tweaker whatever, admire there skill but evaluate the whole of that person before you step out on a limb and say hey such and such is so great or wonderful, you may be wrong, and not know how you got involved in something deeper than you expected. I love the game and want to spread it anyway I can, but not at the expense of giving out bad information. to our newer hobbyists look at whats here, emulate the things you want to do from experienced veterans, but beware if you see that you are now allied or linked with a person or group that may not be on the same page or ideas as you, bounce! trust me, one person I think of is Anthony Burgess, now I wont recap AB's life and times in the EF/MF community, but I feel its a shame he is no longer here, even though he may not have been the most well liked indiviual in EF/MF, his heart and vision always shined, I understand him more now than ever. AB you are missed brother contact me, but in closing let peeps play how they want, help others when you are able, EF/MF can grow if We all contribute to it. and whats best for you may not be best for me, but have enough character as a person to let me try another path,somtimes my EF/MF family we can be what is wrong in the hobby, it took me a while but I got it.

stay blessed

HOOP 05-21-2008 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Biglock (Post 40084)
hi my EF/MF brethren
in closing let peeps play how they want, help others when you are able, EF/MF can grow if We all contribute to it. and whats best for you may not be best for me, but have enough character as a person to let me try another path,somtimes my EF/MF family we can be what is wrong in the hobby
stay blessed


Thats the money shot right there.

rjackson 05-21-2008 10:14 AM

Lock I feel ya bro......
 
...........but one issue I have is you can not and I repeat can not come on here and say your way is better then another way!! That doesn't fly in this world. If you love doing something your way then do it, don't try to be-little someone's elses way of doing things because you see it as a legacy way of doing things.

Some folks in this Hobby is thinking Reggie is forcing the TSO rules on folks to go National, however Reggie just promotes and hypes the TSO rules his way. Folks that have played in other leagues and come and play in the TSO ruleset love this way of playing because it allows you to be more creative, it challenges you mentally and physically and it also keeps you in the game all the time.

I know some folks say physically, yes it does. I keep a towel with me at all times because I run a hurry up offense in this style of play and if you are not quick on your feet, I will cut that set on or force you to use a timeout, just like a real game situation. You got to love it.

Lock I said all that to say let the community make a decision on a style of play and not force it!!!

Biglock 05-21-2008 11:35 AM

brother RJ thanks for the reply
 
I am in complete agreement, you cant force feed peeps things, that will just get you upchucked upon for real, I use to think the more things you were exposed to made you more well rounded, and it may, all it did for me was make me know alot of stuff, and a master of none of it, I still dig Devider Style, I still have a sincere interest in the MPFL , but I knew I had to focus on the 4.0 to settle on a style choose it and thats that, I will always have an interests in the winding road of EF/MF but it spread me real thin and I can blame no one but myself for that, now is my moment of clarity, RJ give me a call when you can, i need to kick it with on the real Dunn ok scream at me.

Soljah 05-21-2008 11:50 AM

To ALL
 
These are True Comments that "RESONATE" throughout the EF/MF community!

Peace

WallyJ 05-21-2008 11:57 AM

Lock,

You come through again with some good words and an open minded view.

Wally

rjackson 05-21-2008 12:10 PM

Lock PM........
 
.........me your hookup again my brother!!

Electric Coach 05-21-2008 12:11 PM

Similarities and Differences
 
This is what makes this hobby great. The varied approaches to how the hobby is played opens the door for creativity. We as a community must learn to look beyond our differences and look at our similarities; that is electric football. I’m not saying that to say that we should overlook our differences, for we should know how our neighbor’s differences. As I said to Anthony Burgess back when my video “Electric Football Federation” was only an idea, it’s not how you play; it’s what we play.

Maurice

The Electric Coach

OldSchool 05-21-2008 12:13 PM

Scott, RJ and Lock...
 
Scott... The actual money shot was the part you chose to leave off what Lock said at the end of his post. It's underlined and in RED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biglock (Post 40084)
hi my EF/MF brethren
in closing let peeps play how they want, help others when you are able, EF/MF can grow if We all contribute to it. and whats best for you may not be best for me, but have enough character as a person to let me try another path,somtimes my EF/MF family we can be what is wrong in the hobby, it took me a while but I got it.

stay blessed

As noble as Lock's words are the ONLY person he really needs to convince is himself. It appears he's figured out what some of us already know... just read my tag-line and you'll understand what I'm talking about.

RJ... I agree with your post 100%

Lock... Misconceptions and misunderstanding generally occur when people who have dilemmas with others, do everything but talk directly to the person with whom they are having the problems. People would rather come up here and post about things they heard third party...even if they don't have all of the facts or they just put up complete fiction altogther. You're not the type of person who usually does that, so I'll take your thread at face value until we've had a chance to speak.

Peace,

Don Smith

JIMBO 05-21-2008 12:58 PM

Why Bother?
 
Quote:

Lock... Misconceptions and misunderstanding generally occur when people who have dilemmas with others, do everything but talk directly to the person with whom they are having the problems. People would rather come up here and post about things they heard third party...even if they don't have all of the facts or they just put up complete fiction altogther. You're not the type of person who usually does that, so I'll take your thread at face value until we've had a chance to speak.

Peace,

Don Smith
It gets twisted when you don't say a word. It gets twisted when you explain yourself. Why bother? "For" or "against." There's only 2 sides in most people's eyes. Whatever happened to "let's agree to disagree" and keep playing? It turned into "disagree and we'll spread lies and rumors behind your back" because they either can't understand simple English or the 3rd party they heard it from can't read simple English. Thanks, but no thanks. With "friends" like this, I'd rather have enemies!!! Good guys live in seclusion, while the bad guys get worshipped. Since the beginning of time. No way to change that. The guy that wanted to co-exist and built a fiery moat around his cave to protect his people and keep the T-Rex out was a coward, while the idiot that got his arm chewed off fighting the T-Rex was voted king!?! Doesn't make sense to me...??? Same in this hobby and any other unfortunately. Leopards and lemmings any way you slice it. :cool:


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