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this is pointless.......

Geno, tail wagging the dog, .............tell you what.......... you put on a tournament with 40 - 50 guys and see what happens.

I'm very vocal about this because I'm the ONLY one on this board, who has literally invested 10's of thousands of dollars in this hobby. You guys don't like or trust my judgment, and totally discredit my experience, much less understand what you are talking about.....to each his own.

Wolf you are getting it, .....it is about establishing "Classes" for competition, .............Not standards for equipment. Folks, Use the correct words for what you are talking about.

Al, if you can't understand by now with all my explanations, or if you have trouble reading what I have said, ..........then there is nothing else to say, it all has been said in all of my posts...............everything thoroughly explained about the difference and what Standards Actually are. ............................. I didn't make the ******** standard.....tudor did!