its obvious that the standard manufactured products isnt going to change no time soon, we need to seperate the 2 "Competition Weight" addresses eveything we need to do here period. George is right the standards have been set awhile back & for new guys, thats where they will most likely start, assuming they go to the common manufactures for there products. With that said "Competition Weight" is what deserves our attention.

pretend like that wasnt my suggestion for u guys who wouldnt follow me out of a burning house
