...don't know if this counts but as far as strength, both Jim and Norbert added fire power to both my NFC division championship 49ers (and coach of the year honors) last season and to my Big 10 Championship runner up Grambling Tigers. They also showed me a few tricks of the trade in teaching me to tweak. Butch helped with a few speed bases as well. I do want to state that I tweaked about 75% of both teams bases but these cats gave me those "extra" pieces that helped to push my teams to the top.
