[sweetka]

When I look at this post I think of first Will Shropshire, Frank Johnson, then Tom from Minneapolis who played in the Great Lakes and honored their commitment.

I think of some of the times when I was a total ---hole and I can think of times when others were worse but it was okay because I was the one with the "history".

I'd like to say I changed but actually I conformed. But people sometimes refuse to see how far you have come because the dye has been cast.

I guess what I am saying is if a person is trying to do better, in my case the electric slide, then acknowledge it instead of battering them with the past. If they don't try to do better then put the foot to em.

As far as not showing, showing up late, etc. we all have been on both ends of the stick. Follow your established policies and procedures. Sure, the whining will come but if you turn a deaf ear then they will have the choice of conforming or not. That way, you can surely say, without a doubt, that this person made the choice to not conform making it their own decision to discontinue.

I believe that no one should be denied the right to play, and your rules, procedures, with circumstances/consequences should reflect that in such a way that this question won't be necessary.

Just my thoughts.