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Old 02-23-2011, 10:38 AM
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POST - UPDATE ON POST -
It took me so darn long to type this up, that in the meantime, about 5 of you summed up EVEN BETTER what i was trying to say.

But here is the post anyhow, cause since my son didnt get his Raisin Brand cereal right away, someone is going to read the reason why


So let me drop my last dime on this which clarifies my particular angle (of the many legit angles there are) and summarize perhaps the whole thread.
And forgive me if i use some of the same words said.

TWEAKING is necessary, a weapon, FUN TO DO (even in frustration) and yes, a savior............


I. FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE HOBBY ALREADY.
-1. "Competition" Tweakers - Anyone of us who tweak to play in leagues, no matter our tweak or skill level.
-2. "Solitaire" Tweakers - Anyone of us who just want bases to run well (40 yards straight, whatever speed, whatever strength), no matter our tweak or skill level.

However, an enemy (perhaps a strong word) for.............

II. BRAND NEW VISITORS AND POTENTIAL MEMBERS
-1. Adults - who played the game, found our site want to see whats what.
-2. Kids - who are introduced to the game somehow but need some instant success to hold interest (i.e. - Men running straight right away)

On this thread, we have intertwined these two points into 1 discussion when they are two different discussions. I think Geno started this thread cause the same thing happened on the other thread when (i think i am responsible ) it unintentionally got jacked by a few of our (my) posts. Sorry bout that Ken.
But again, lets just understand that some of us are speaking on behalf of the new guy (Potential Member to the MFCA) and some of us are speaking on behalf of the person already involved (immersed even) in our hobby. As far as Tweaking goes, that is a 2 angle discussion, depending on who you are talking with.

Hobbyist want to share, gain, discuss and apply knowledge in the MANY different aspects of the hobby and enjoy
New adults want to see that its NOT the same game as before, but not that it has surpassed their imagination where they become intimidated or feel it has gotten TOO big where they unfortunately cannot fit in.
New kids want to see this hands on game operate the way they play in their Pop Warner Leagues or see on Madden. AND THEY LOVE IT!!!!, seen it many times over. But it has to hold their interest and that means more bases running better out the box, or an easier way, or easier base, (complete with tool) to be tweaked quickly so the kids get right into the game.

HEY -imagine this - a tool comes with the game with base that just has to be squeezed alittle for it to run. This immediately gets kids involved in tweaking and just adds another dimension to the game. They immediately feel they can tailor the game to their own likes by squeezing harder or softer or, or................ One thing we ALLLL know about kids, once they (WE) get our hands on something of interest, the ideas start to flow. Imagine this discussion on tweaking 10 years from now if kids got involved in tweaking ( with provided tool) with every Miggle set they brought?

On this thread, it has turned into a healthy discussion that will lead to some sort of change in the future - BOOK THAT! Perhaps a DVD as Don mentioned or a starters kit complete with a tweak tool for new members, as someone told me as an idea, or something else like????......... (FILL IN THE BLANK):________________________________________


THANKS GUYS FOR ENDURING THE LONG POST.
sorry bout that, it was supposed to be short and quick.

Scott
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