...and read ALL 181 pages of posts. EVERY QUESTION has been asked and answered 1000s of times. SEARCH whichever specific topic you can think of. Meet with some of the guys in your area and they can SHOW you everything you need to see. Welcome to The Greatest Hobby On Earth!!! DO NOT ever mention TTQB or "sticks" or Pass Placement or "systems" or the like ever again!!! :rolleyes: