[Treks1]

I don't know, it just seems to me that if you can't improve on what's out there already, then why get involved in it at all. Scientific and other advancement build upon the discovery or technology of its previous generation. I would like to have seen excalibur do more market research and perhaps a little R & D before then entered our hobby. New products should be an advancement and an improvement over the current model. Perhaps ten (10) years from now they will have figures, bases or boards as good as what some peolple are making today. Let's all be patient and wait. Nothing but time here......

Coaches have developed better products on their own.

I for one will continue to support these "independents", BB, RR, and ITZ because they have earned it by producing high quality products.