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Old 11-17-2008, 10:06 AM
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When ant burgess speaks of the passing game he is speaking my language.

1) pass routes

2) defenders making a play on the ball

3)areas in the zone for the qb to hit the wr.

THIS IS ALL TOTALLY NON EXISTENT IN OUR HOBBY.

It seems the old way of doing things from many years ago keep getting grandfathered into many styles toDAY."I HOPE YOU ALL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU" BUT, there has been no one out there who took it upon themselves to introduce a fresh new idea for these little men until ant came along.

When TUDOR designed this toy, (IT WAS JUST A TOY BACK IN THE 60's AND 70's) They needed a device to simulate a qb throwing the ball. They came up with the ttqb for the kids to flick around thinking they are playing quarterback. it was just another part of the toy to go into the box.
Do you really think a toymaker way back then was interested in a WR running pass routes, and defenders making a play on the ball. A RESOUNDING NOOOOOO !!! . The bases did not even run straight so how could they sell a pass route. Do you think the kids even cared about a pass route. nooooo !
they just wanted to say lookie mommy, im playing football. (THE TTQB WAS JUST THE TOY THAT CAME IN THE BOX).

Tudor/miggle never thought in there wildest imagination that grown men in there 30's 40's and 50's would still have an interest in this game. The only difference is our minds have expanded in regards to football and we all have a basic knowledge of it from either playing, coaching, reffing or just watching on tv. With the advancement of this hobby and all the changes that have been made, we seem to still resort back to the toy that came with the game in the box.

Instead of talking SERIOUS strategy in regards to defensivE BACKS AND RECEIVER ROUTES, the topic of many day is how well someone can throw with a ttqb or someone gives advice on how you should pratice more.
If i started a league in newyork (which is coming) i will not introduce the ttqb to a bunch of grown men. I rather see them working on strategic packages for there entire team. Also, i do not forsee them taking anytime flicking around the ball with the ttqb.

I understand there are many that are great with the ttqb but that is because they have an interest in continuing to use it and not willing to try something else. Do me a favor, pick up a highly detailed figure with facemask, chin straps, gloves, names, numbers, shoe decals, the works. then pick up your ttqb. The 30 to 40 year change is the player looks like what you see on tv, the ttqb is still the toy that came with the game in the box. I will admit i am impressed with THE GREAT "DON HUDSON" of the DFW. The guy took a ttqb and hit a wr in the endzone while the ttqb was in the other endzone on a 308 board. THAT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE. But when coaches pride themselves on how good of a passer they are with it, it's sort of like, O.K

Your defenders should be given the op like TROY PALOMOLU AND BOB SANDERS TO MAKE INCREDIBLE PLAYS ON THE BALL. nOT STAND THERE AND WAIT AND SEE IF THE QB CAN HIT ONE OF THEM. The reason why db's are placed directly in front of wr's in our hobby is because there was no real strategy to keep them from running down field. So, many years ago we all resorted to this tug of war. I push past you or i push you back so you can't run anywhere. THAT WAS A NATURAL DEFENSE FOR A KID IN MANY SITUATIONS. Your trying to go somewhere and i must get in front of you to prevent it. I must hold you off for as long as i can .

IT IS DEFENSIVE HOLDING IF YOU PUT A WR IN A BEARHUG ON THE LOS WAITING FOR THE QB TO GET SACKED. I wish a coach would come on here a give me a clearcut answer on why this is still accepted in this day and age.
It has been grandfathered in from many years ago and no one wanted to address it until ant came along !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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