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Old 10-21-2009, 01:51 PM
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Default PROLINE FIRST RUN BASES.........NORBERT REVELS

Mike Guttman / Norbet RevelsI think the one component that was not used in the new formula for the bases were.

1. ETHYLENE VINYL ACETATE ( MAKES THE PLASTIC RUBBERY LIKE THE FIRST
RUN BASES )

2. PLASTICIZERS ( MAKES THE PLASTIC VERY FLEXIBLE )

3. DI-2- ETHYLHEXL PHTHALATE CONCENTRATION AT 50%, ALSO KNOWN AS
DIOCTYL PHTHALATE ( MAKES THE PLASTICS VERY SOFT )

4. POLYVINYL CHLORIDE ( MAKES THE PLASTICS FLEXIBLE )



MIKE CHECK THIS OUT WITH THE LANDSMANS AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.



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Old 10-21-2009, 05:42 PM
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PLEASE READ THIS AND PASS IT ONTO THE LANDSMANS.

The present invention provides an innovative process for deformulating and removing nearly all fillers, pigments, dyes, and other additives from soluble plastics and polymers (including polymers, copolymers and polymer combinations) by: (1) combining a polymer product having formulations with an appropriate solvent to form a polymer/solvent solution; (2) processing the solution through a filter or series of filters to remove any visible fillers and/or additives (e.g., fiberglass, aluminum, mica, etc.); (3) exposing the solution to various mineral filtration aids including carbon, activated carbon and/or diatomaceous earth to allow adsorption of many of the formulations; (4) processing the solution again through a filter or series of filters down to about 0.01 microns or smaller to clarify or polish the solution by removing substantially all remaining additive formulations; and (5) separating the polymer/solvent solution by any methods known to the industry (i.e., steam precipitation, chemical precipitation, extrusion devolatization, etc.), leaving the isolated polymer deformulated.

Accordingly, it is an object of the invention to provide a method for separating colorants, formulations, and other additives from formulated polymers so that the polymers are returned to a substantially pure, unformulated state.



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Old 10-21-2009, 06:12 PM
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The present invention provides an innovative process for deformulating and removing nearly all fillers, pigments, dyes, and other additives from soluble plastics and polymers (including polymers, copolymers and polymer combinations) by: (1) combining a polymer product having formulations with an appropriate solvent to form a polymer/solvent solution; (2) processing the solution through a filter or series of filters to remove any visible fillers and/or additives (e.g., fiberglass, aluminum, mica, etc.); (3) exposing the solution to various mineral filtration aids including carbon, activated carbon and/or diatomaceous earth to allow adsorption of many of the formulations; (4) processing the solution again through a filter or series of filters down to about 0.01 microns or smaller to clarify or polish the solution by removing substantially all remaining additive formulations; and (5) separating the polymer/solvent solution by any methods known to the industry (i.e., steam precipitation, chemical precipitation, extrusion devolatization, etc.), leaving the isolated polymer deformulated.

Accordingly, it is an object of the invention to provide a method for separating colorants, formulations, and other additives from formulated polymers so that the polymers are returned to a substantially pure, unformulated state.

Our chemical analysis techniques can help you with:
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Are you trying to match the performance of an existing product? Our scientists have extensive experience in product deformulation to arrive at an identification of the base polymer or a complete accounting of additives and their quantity. PDI has optimized Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) deformulation and is the premier company with the technical expertise to identify, quantify, and analyze PVC compounding ingredients. Based on our background, we are the industry leader in PVC characterization.
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Deformulation usually starts with grinding of the plastic to a fine mesh size and proprietary solvent extractions to remove various components from the plastic. Once materials are isolated, they can be identified using a number of analytical techniques such as Fourier Transform Infrared Spectroscopy (FTIR) and Differential Scanning Calorimetry (DSC).

Other methods can be used to quantify fillers and pigments. These include Thermogravimetric Analysis (TGA) and Scanning Electron Microscopy/Energy Dispersive X-Ray Analysis (SEM/EDXA). Additives in very low amounts may be determined using High Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC) and Gas Chromatography/ Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS). Gel Permeation Chromatography (GPC) can be used to determine the molecular weight and molecular weight distribution of the resin.



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Very good work,.................you allready did the best thing in contacting the landsmans, (by posting on the miggle site) Margie will see that post and contact them directly,........at one time I did have the number to the red phone but I can't find it anywhere.



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Those words you using sound as if it is coming from a mensu member.

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Mike Guttman / Norbet RevelsI think the one component that was not used in the new formula for the bases were.

1. ETHYLENE VINYL ACETATE ( MAKES THE PLASTIC RUBBERY LIKE THE FIRST
RUN BASES )

2. PLASTICIZERS ( MAKES THE PLASTIC VERY FLEXIBLE )

3. DI-2- ETHYLHEXL PHTHALATE CONCENTRATION AT 50%, ALSO KNOWN AS
DIOCTYL PHTHALATE ( MAKES THE PLASTICS VERY SOFT )

4. POLYVINYL CHLORIDE ( MAKES THE PLASTICS FLEXIBLE )



MIKE CHECK THIS OUT WITH THE LANDSMANS AND SEE WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.


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That's four components! Again, great research!
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thanks KINGPIN,

never knew any of this ...... great information for those who can use it!
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