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Old 03-14-2010, 04:29 PM
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Default WHO STACKS, AND WHO LAYS BACK

COACHES,

This is just an overall hobby question

who allows stacks, and who plays open and layed back.
In your own opinion, does stacking hurt the running game in electric football.
Does stacking cause more of a traffic jam in the trenches.
Is stacking designed to help out the base in front of it.
If the qb just handed off the ball and got out of the way, would stacking be eliminated.
Is gap play where it should be.
Are the linebackers really doing there job, or are they just pushing a shopping cart down the isle in a supermarket.

Why stack, when each base should do there job own there own TWEAKED MERITS.

Bottom line, in your defensive schemes, why do you really stack. Im sure each coaches answer will be different

A question to ask your offensive and defensive lineman. Can you do the job(tweaked base) without the assistance of a fellow teammate. In the NFL, where do you see stacking unless its 1st and goal on the 1 yard line and closer. Or third and 1 or closer going for the first down.

Jusr curious as to why stacking is part of your everyday gameplan.


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Old 03-14-2010, 04:35 PM
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Here in France, we not allow stacking. You must have one base space in widht and 1/2 base lenght between two figures.


Because of that, we not allow defensive line to place their athletes in the holes between the 5 O linemen. All other figures not facing the 5 O linemen or facing the linemen BUT positionned on 2d or 3rd line can be placed the manner we want (even facing an hole).
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:42 PM
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Default Stacking is ok!

Any defensive formation should be allowed. You may want to stack to force your opponent to throw. You got to know your opponent and take away his strengths. That is football! Too many spacing requirements make for a lifeless game.
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:48 PM
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Default DIPLOMATIC.

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This is what i like, diplomatic and informative responses. E-game, that is the first time i ever heard anyone say they will stack to force someone to throw, its usually to help stop a powerfull running team. But there are some deadly passers in the hobby. I guess you must pick and choose who you are forcing to throw the rock. for instance, if i were playing don Hudson out of texas, I want him running the ball every single down. he does not miss too many passes
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:47 PM
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In a way, stacking is a part of the game.

I explain, even if you use special rules for start positions, once the board is ON, if you know well your athletes, you can create stacking (classic example of a FB making the hole with the HB pushing it in the back).


But forbidden stacking at game positionning make interesting strategic challenge, in my opinion, and works great with the special rule for holes I explained.

In france, we're beginners...but we like to make our own rules soup too
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Old 03-14-2010, 05:51 PM
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Default Andre, it's simple, if a coach...

can't pass, I will definitely stack.

Here are two different cases against me.

I played the Texas Longhorns last year in the CBSMF. Mike and I are mirror images of each other. What he knows, he learned from me. But he has taken the game to another level. So on Mike, I tried stacking in some cases, on crucial 3rd down plays to put extra pressure on the QB. He would hit a crucial pass which gave him new life or he scored.

Then at that point, I spread out to stop the run. When you do that, the running game opened so wide. When you play in a style that gets 80-100 plays, the opportunities to run the ball are many. Priest Holmes finished with more than 200 yards rushing on me. Those were design plays by Texas to put me in that position. At season's end, Priest Holmes had totaled more than 1600 yards rushing (in a stacking type of game).

Case 2
I played Mozeek in New York with his Oakland Raiders. In the opening half, I played more of an honest spread out defense. I would have a standard 4-3 with wide gaps to handle audibles. At the time, I had no scouting report on Mozeek and his style. In the opening half, his Raiders dominated us on the ground. I think in that opening half, between Van Eeghen, Bo Jackson, and Clarence Davis, he may have rushed for 300 yards on me. I still have nightmares of Van Eeghen first half massacre.

In the second half, I realized Mozeek could not hit the broadside of a barn. I held him scoreless and I racked up 49 points at the end of 3 quarters. When I realized he had some difficulty in the air, I (like any NFL coordinator) stacked up to stop the run. There is a skill in throwing that little felt ball and it's just not as easy as people think. Until he could prove it, why should I have to lower my standards of play and just let holes be open that real defensive coordinators would not let happen?

Another instance similar to the Oakland game just happened recently. The Florida Gators (Dru Sparks) ran roughshod over my team in the first half. I know my team was not as strong as Dru's as I had put the bases on just to play the game. I saw Dru was having trouble connecting on passes. He was leading 26-21 at the end of the half. Second half, I change strategies and stacked up to stop or slow down the run. By game's end, he had not scored and I had 16 unanswered points. I was able to run in the second half as I broke off long gainers and had nice holes from the West Coast schemes.

My opinion, stacking is something that should be allowed. It is allowed in the NFL but people who know how to run schemes to manuever against it always manage to do very well in this style of play. Those usually are the ones who can run and pass with equal ability. And that's kind of how it is in high school, the NCAA, and the NFL. There's nothing more fun than seeing a team stack up on you and you audible into play action and hit a man on an 80 yard skinny post.

The moral of the story is that Dru Sparks told me "Reg, you were not able to run on me in the game", and I told him, "Yeah Dru, but by the end of the day I've got 400 plus total yards with 300 passing and a 36-26 win".
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:27 PM
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Default Stacking

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Any defensive formation should be allowed. You may want to stack to force your opponent to throw. You got to know your opponent and take away his strengths. That is football! Too many spacing requirements make for a lifeless game.
I got to be with efgamer on this one. Too many requirements make for a lifeless game.
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