Why wouldn't you want to play at 4.0???

[rjackson]

Just a general question. I know some have issues with the 4.0 scale and just wanted to get some feedback from the masses. Adult answers please with no sarcasm!!

[Electric Coach]

I don’t see any reason why a coach would not want to play in the 4.0 format other than he will have to create a team that weighs in at 4.0g. Some coaches may get on a slippery slope by claiming that moving to 4.0 means moving to a heavier weight. It’s still EF regardless of the weight at which one plays.

Maurice

The Electric Coach

[Treks1]

All of my equipment is based on a lighter weight. I am working on a 4.0 team for the College Bowl Series, and to be honest I am used to certain figures at certain positions. I have yet to find counterparts at the heavier weight I am comfortable with, balance, performance and the like. This is especially true for WR and RB. It will take some customizing but its a different market.

Its an adjustment......

Steve,

If that is the case, why not just use the figures you are comfortable with and just bring them up to weight?

Wally

[Jim Davis]

i Love 4.0 Scale And In The Further I Will Only Play In A League With A 4.0 Weight Scale Of Play And I Love The Dfw Rules Of Play.


the D. F. W. Rules Rock

[Reginald Rutledge]

these are "Shootout Rules".

I may have been reponsible for authoring these rules 34 years ago BUT many leagues have adopted this style of play that they can just simply be classified as "The Shootout Rules System".

The LAEFL has its variation of the ruleset. The Alamo City EFL has its variation. The BAM has its variation. Kevin Boddie is getting ready to establish a Shootout Rules League in Washington. I know Brian Healey and Jerry Fulton are starting a Shootout League. I know a league is forming in Virginia under the Shootout Rules system. And the South Florida League of Champions has its version of the Shootout rules system. And the big league, the College Bowl Series of Miniature Football will be doing a Shootout-based system.

Yes they may have originated in the DFW but I can't give total credit to the DFW for the rules. It must be given to all the leagues that use this style, therefore, it's just the "Shootout system". All these coaches are taking the time to learn this style and that is what's great about the potential.

Reg

[detroitchild]

I'm not an expert when it comes to this discussion. In fact, I've never played a down of EF against a coach at the 4.0 weight so you can take my comments with a grain of salt....BUT...I have experimented/played with heavier weights on my board and I gotta tell ya that it is an improvement. With more coaches moving towards bigger boards the "need for speed" becomes highly desirable. If you turn up the speed on those boards with the lighter figures they become less stable. I like playing at a high speed and find that the heavier figures are stable and run a lot smoother (not to mention the realistic, bone crushing collisions at the heavier weight/higher speeds...ya talk about excitement). Now let me say here that I understand tweaking skills (or in my case, lack thereof) play a huge role in this but I'm getting better play out of figures weighing in closer to 4.0 regardless of my tweaking skills All I did was add weight to my existing miggle/tudor/buzzball figures to reach 4.0, tweak the base a little and I'm good to go. I would think that bringing existing teams up to 4.0 for a more experienced coach would not be difficult (I mean come on...if I can do it!) Like my man Jeasy money said, I'll be looking to play at 4.0 competition at some point in the future.

Just my 2 cents!

[Treks1]

Originally Posted by WallyJ

Steve,

If that is the case, why not just use the figures you are comfortable with and just bring them up to weight?

Wally

Yea, I thought about that...... funny... most of my time has been spent shaving figures down to lose weight for 3.2g. Not sure how to come up w/ .08 grams without globbing a lot of material all over my figures. I have some ideas. Some players may just be playing light on their feet and I just hope they don't get killed.... Just have to see how it all works out.

Looking forward to building this 4.0 team and the new rule set. Very exciting.
P.S. The Big Ten will dominate!!!

I can see excatly what Treks1 is saying.

You develop a certain "comfort level" and level of competition at the lighter wieght(s) and the you have to re-learn a lot to get back to those same levels.

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the question.

Personally, if you have the time, then I think it's a good challenge...if you are looking for one like that!

[Shabby J]

Originally Posted by Treks1

All of my equipment is based on a lighter weight. I am working on a 4.0 team for the College Bowl Series, and to be honest I am used to certain figures at certain positions. I have yet to find counterparts at the heavier weight I am comfortable with, balance, performance and the like. This is especially true for WR and RB. It will take some customizing but its a different market.

Its an adjustment......

Your WRs and RBs don't necessarily have to come in at 4.0, most experimenting I have done, they seem to run and perform better in the 3.3-3.65 range. Mind you, this is my particular tweaking style, my figures, my board, etc..just a note that you do not need nor may not want to put these skilled positions at 4.0, weigh them up and them gradually back down until you find a happy zone for them to be in.