Alltime Time Gathering Next Year In Vegas

[mantaraydre]

COACHES


Due to massive increases in airlines and gas prices coming up in october and all of next year, we got to play this smart !!!!!! forget all of the BEEFS, HANGUP'S, I DON'T LIKE THIS , I DON'T LIKE THAT,PLAY MY WAY, NO PLAY MY WAY. AS MR. UN ITY 2008, HERE IS MY PROPOSAL/TRUCE TO BRING EVERYONE BACK UNDER THE SAME TENT.


I mentioned about a year or two ago that we should all hit las vegas. The cbsmf has just declared they are going to vegas. WHY DON'T WE ALL JUST DO THIS TOGETHER ON A 4 TO 5 DAY EXTENDED WEEKEND.

MFCA CONVENTION 2009
SEAWALL BRAWL 2009
BAM BLAST 2009
CBSMF 2009
BUZZBALL 2009
MIGGLE 2009
THE BASH 2009
THE SHOW 2009
TEXAS SHOOTOUT 2009
*********ALL ON THE SAME WEEKEND***********

REASON/ Everyone of us play's in 3 to 4 of these tourneys so why not be together on one weekend to save everyone money. ONE BIG MINIATURE FOOTBALL WEEKEND/VACATION, THE REST OF THE YEAR YOU CAN VACATION WITH YOUR FAMILY.

WHY VEGAS/EVERYTHING IS ALWAY'S MUCH CHEAPER IN LAS VEGAS BECAUSE ALL OF THE HOTELS WAN'T YOU TO HAVE EXTRA MONEY TO GAMBLE WITH.****VEGAS IS ALWAY'S RUNNING CHEAP FLIGHT DEALS TO GET YOU OUT THERE. ALSO/ There is a embassy suites right off the strip we can do business with. EVERYTHING IS CHEAPER OFF THE STRIP PLUS MF HAS AN ESTABLISHED MF HISTORY VIA MIGGLE'S TOURNEY.

HERE IS THE KICKER (NO PUN INTENDED) We are inviting everyone and whomever does not wan't to come together for whatever reason( we will gone on with the show without them) I'm sick and tired of 1 or 2 people trying to hold eveyone hostage with there pettiness and try to damper the MF spirit we all have. IF YOU DON'T WAN'T TO SEE US ALL TOGETHER, KEEP YOUR ********** HOME (THE END)

TOO MANY COACHES LIKE EACH OTHER FOR THIS EXTREME 10 YEAR OLD SILLINESS. THIS IS THE ANSWER TO THE HIGH PRICE OF TRAVEL AND DOING.I'M THROWING THIS OUT THERE NOW SO WOLF AND ALL OTHER POWERS THAT BE CAN TALK BUSINESS AFTER THIS YEARS CONVENTION.

WE CAN SAVE MONEY NOW, RUN CONTEST TO GET COACHES OUT THERE, RENT BUSES (ALA BUS ROAD TRIP THROUGH THE COUNTRY TO VEGAS)

NOW, UP HERE IN LIGHTS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE,

WHO WAN'T IN ???????????????????
MR UNITY

[kingATL]

Coach

I,m Commish of DSEFL, Our league has grown from 10 coaches to 20. We are now hosting the Bama Blast in Atlanta. Your idea is great , we decided to travel together as a league to participate in tournament in 2009. I know the coaches in this league would love this idea of yours. Because it save money for travel when you come together like this and keep family time function in tack. Keep fighting for this coach DSEFL support you on this !!!

[mantaraydre]

Thank You DSEFL For Your Timely Response. Looking Foward To Doing Business With You !!!!!!!!!!!!1



Bama Strikes First !!!!!!!

[mantaraydre]

EVERY TOURNEY WILL DO BUSINESS AS USUAL. You will not be combining your event with someone else. YOU ARE THE BOSS OF YOUR OWN SHOW !!!!

YOU SET IT UP AS IF YOU WERE HOSTING IT IN YOUR HOME TOWN !!!!!!

WE CAN GET 2 TO 3 SEPARATE BALL ROOMS IF NEED BE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



MR. UNITY

[mantaraydre]

thank You For At Least Reading The Post





Mr Unity

[Silverhorse 228]

Okay MANTARAY- DRE I will be the one to bring you back down to earth and play devils advocate. Please make a note...I am not critizing your idea...I am just raising questions...nothing but love for you from Indiana...

First off...I admire your enthusiasm towards the hobby...I am continually impressed by your zeal and your ability to get people pumped up. This response is by no means an attempt to dampen that zeal...quite the opposite...I want more coaches to see how much you love this game....

Second, my family and I regularly go to Vegas via our time share at the Flamingo Hilton. You have mentioned several reasons why you think it would be a great location, but unfortunately the reality presents a lot of obstacles.

The largest obstacle is location. To have a convention, like what you described, is going to take some serious money. Everything is expensive in Vegas...and I do mean everything. To rent out some space in even the smallest of venues is going to run into the thousands of dollars. Then you have the expense of staying in Vegas for an entire week. We spend around $1,500-$2,500 the last couple times we spent a week in Vegas...and that was just for the basics. Those "freebie" trips you are talking about are tied to buying condos and time shares in Vegas. You must sign up and follow around the host for sometimes up to two days...believe me they don't take no for an answer. And if you have found some cheap rooms off the strip, then I want their phone numbers...the only thing cheap in Vegas is the Buffets. What kind of prices have you gotten from the Embassy Suites in Vegas? Last I checked rooms were $160-$200 a night...if you can get us a deal, then I would be interested.

Furthermore, what about equipment for the tourneys? If everyone has to fly to the location, then where are we going to get boards to play on? I know the LAEFL is out there and my friend Dave Campbell would probably make the trip, not to mention we have Mike Turner in Vegas, but are guys going to want to play on other guys boards? Just throwing it out there.

Finally, I am worried about consolidating the tourneys to the point where we are meeting for just one week. I think the best way to go, would be to consolidate regions rather than the whole country. Reggie has the new College league going, we could consolidate the Bama, Brawl and Bash into one. I noticed you left the Hoosier Invitational off your list...that is fine...we (midwest coaches) have been trying to get our own tourney together. Perhaps we could go in with Buzzfest and Miggle.

Anyway...just throwing my two cents out there...

One thing is for certain...we can discuss all this face to face at the MFCA Convention during our organizational meeting on Friday from 11am-2pm. Bring all your information Dre and we can all talk about it when everyone is together...

See you in Canton...

P.S. You should get with Mike Turner and see what he can do for us...

Matthew Culp

[Silverhorse 228]

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I would like to say that as a member of the DSEFL I stand behind my Commissioner in his pledge to support this movement. If EF is to come to the fore front and take its rightful place as the Ultimate Hobby we need to do this.


DLRJr

[mantaraydre]

SIVERHORSE,


The purpose of the post was to throw an idea out there and see who wan't to come together and make this work.DID YOU NOTICE ONLY ONE ENTITY CAME ON HERE WITH A RESOUNDING YES! Im just putting the idea out there that this can be done. I was hoping all tourney rep's would sign up and say yes let's try this. I am not doing any ground work for something many don't want to see happen. ONE GUY CAN'T PUT THE ENTIRE HOBBY ON HIS BACK AND CARRY IT.

IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE MANUFACTURERS WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMPREHENSIVE GAMEPLAN FOR THE COACHES AND THE HOBBY AS A WHOLE. The only thing i see now are coaches picking and choosing what tourney they wan't to attend next year when the can attend all of them in one shot.

I guarantee that if all manufacturers were super close friends and business came second, this would have been done already. It's amazing that there is this company where all of the bosses from around the u s (many offices) come together and send all of it's employees(from all over the u s) on vacation together with there immediate family members on a exoctic island for a week. It's like an expensive picnic in BERMUDA. ARUBA, ETC ETC. If half the bosses said no im not doing that then it probably would not happen. (I KNOW IT'S A TAX RIGHT OFF). WE ARE NOT ASKING THE MANFACTURERS TO PAY FOR IT JUST PLAN IT FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF THE HOBBY. Ofcourse with umpteen coaches helping to plan it.

It bothers me that 10year old's can sit in a room a play XBOX for 12 hours a day(on the weekends) and grown men can't talk to each other for 5 minutes due to something many coaches don't know and probably won't care about once that hotel room door closes.

IS BUSINESS KILLING THIS HOBBY OR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ONE ANOTHER ?

I JUST HEARD DONALD TRUMP ON THE RADIO SAYING HE HAS MANY BUSINESS FRIENDS THAT DO EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING. They alway's meet on the golf course, at various functions at each others mansions, they go to each other's grand openings of whatever new venture they are launching. And what do we have here, some, not just manufacturers unwilling to reach out to each other over what, (A BASE, A FIGURE, A RULE SET)IN JUST A WORD, A BLANKING TOY


WE are letting a plastic toy divide us. I have met some incredible people throughout this hobby and now some don't talk to me anymore due to extreme pettiness.

example, i was at a tourney (it was they last day at the very end, i was asking greg hardmon and his girlfriend will they be at another paticular upcoming tourney. I ASKED BECAUSE MAYBE I LIKED HIM AS A COACH/PERSON AND WANTED TO HOOK UP WITH HIM AGAIN. The head of said tourney was mad because i inquired about another tournament at his event. IT WAS THE VERY END, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM, YOU JUST HAD A SUCCESSFUL TOURNEY. MIND YOU I JUST DROP $300 ON HIS PRODUCT'S IN THE SAME BREATH. DO YOU THINK HE WAS MAD AT THAT "I DON'T THINK SO". I LIKE THE GUY AND HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HIM SINCE. This is the stuff im taliking about)

WE ARE LETTING A TOY RUIN RELATIONSHIPS THAT WERE FORMED DUE TO THIS HOBBY


i never played these little reindeerl games in high school and not going to start now.

US REGULAR COACHING FOLK ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY FROM THIS !!!!!

MAN IS HIS OWN WORST ENEMY, THERE IS NO REASON WHY EVERYONE CANT SEE THIS THROUGH.

REMEMBER , IT'S JUST A TOY, THOSE 10 YEAR OLD'S WOULD LAUGH AT US IF THEY EVER GOT WIND OF WHAT'S GOING ONl

MANTARAYDRE

[Silverhorse 228]

MANTARAY DRE,

Wow...you have me at a loss for words to that response. I really think you are making all this out to be a little more than what it is. In my opinion, if we all lived in the same region or even in the same state I think getting everyone in the hobby together in one place would be easy. Since we are all spread out across the whole country I think it is very difficult to make things happen...but not impossible. My point in my earlier post was that you had an great idea, but people just need more information before they just jump up and say "okay lets do it". If I have learned one thing in life is that if you want something to happen, then you need to take the reigns and get things rolling. That is what Lynn has done with the MFCA...that is what Reggie has done...that is what George Diamond has done...and the list goes on and on. I will call around in Las Vegas if you would like me to put something together to help your vision come true...I am not afraid of doing a little leg work. Just let me know what hotels you are interested in and I will start making some phone calls. Now is a good time to get prices, what is offered in Vegas etc., so we can present the idea to everyone in two weeks in Canton. That is the forum in which we can get everyone to openly discuss it and plan.

Furthermore, the MFCA meeting on Friday August 1st is our first real meeting as an organization. It is the planning meeting for which we will promote the hobby and come up with a 5 year plan of attack. I think you will see a different approach to the hobby, when we are talking about organizational goals, rather on how the tourney is going to be run during the convention. Once we get more organized, then the sky is the limit for this hobby.

I am sorry you feel the way you do about the manufacturers and their apparent lack of working together. I for one don't see it...I only see guys who want to get together in fellowship and have a good time. I admittedly don't make many tourneys, but I will tell you that the one's I have made and the coaches I have met...not one of them has ever been unfriendly to me...quite the opposite...we have a great group of guys in this hobby and I am sure we can all learn to Play together.

Put your bad feelings aside...take a deep breath and try, try again...our cup in this hobby is always half full in my book...

God Bless

Matthew Culp