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Old 09-14-2008, 12:15 PM
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Learned some ne things yesterday.
1. On a QB scramble QB can only move 3 yards and then you must give up the switch if he will keep it and pass if he is going to pass. (The defense gets 2 adjustments 1x when scramble is declared and a 2nd time when you decide to pass or run. I kept the switch and it negated a nice gain

2.The QB can be set right under the center and run the ball on any down Here I am with a immobil QB waiting in the pocket with perfect opps to give my QB the ball off the break and I thought that only time QB can run is when a scramble is called Lesson learned ...gave a up a big gain on to qb sneaks in a row and that is on e of my favorite type of formations to run and that would be excellent under a "Hurry Up" type series. Lesson learned.

This is an amazing style of play with an almost infinite amout of options Coach RR as you stated "passing is a must" and found out how to move the ball in 80 yards in less than 25 seconds ..."THROW THE ROCK
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:59 AM
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That's right, there is the QB scramble and then there is the QB roll out. The roll out can be forward, back, left or right.
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Old 09-27-2008, 06:35 AM
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The Scramble and Rollout are two different things-Yes! In the scramble, you must declare that it is a scramble. You get two scrambles per half. These are pretty sacred so they must be used in key play situations.

You can rollout on any play but once you reach the line of scrimmage you must stop the switch and make a decision to run or pass. At that point, the defense does not react if you want to continue to run. Just hand the switch over to the defense.

If you decide to pass, the defense only reacts after the completed pass. But yes, you must hand the switch over to the defense if your rollout continues up field. The reason is simple.

If you allow the offense to handle the switch once the ball carrier passes the line of scrimmage, it is my contention that the offensive coach is not always "honest" in where to stop the action once a defensive player makes the tackle. By allowing the defensive coach to control the switch once he passes the line of scrimmage, it becomes strictly up to the defense as far as where he stops the ball carrier.

In the SO system, if the player hits the ball carrier at the 30 yard line but he continues to let the switch run till the ball carrier reaches the 50, that's on the defense. The runner just simply "broke that tackle" for an extra 20 yards.

What this does is keep the defense in tune with the game and it stops any arguments of where the placement of the ball is at.

Also, yes, if the offense continues to run the ball 3 yards past the LOS, it is a major infraction of "unsportsmanlike conduct-15 yards". The reason is that it is my contention that the offensive coach knowingly ran his ball carrier past the line of scrimmage trying to add on extra yards with a "Shucks, I did not know or I am Sorry" attitude. It's his job to know the rules and that is one of the big ones that can negate a potentially great play.

One other thing, yes, the QB can run or help on blocking. Here's the explanation. First, if we were paying this guy $30 million not to get hit, I would understand. But his rate of pay is like any other player on our miniature football team-NOTHING! So if you want any type of real offensive progression from this style of play (where stacking is allowed), this QB figures in prominently as a runner and a blocker.

Our stats show the importance of having this guy as a real football player. The rushing averages are on par with traditional averages of 6.0 - 3.3 yards/carry. That makes us happy. The QB can sneak the ball and throw the ball just as equally so it does work out pretty well for leagues that play under this method.

Hope this helps. Karim, you've got to know the rules. Yes, the opportunities are limitless. I have a playbook well over 100 plays and it's based off of various schemes.

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Old 09-27-2008, 12:05 PM
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Learning, understanding and internalizing this concept of the game....has definately changed my game plans
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The Scramble and Rollout are two different things-Yes! In the scramble, you must declare that it is a scramble. You get two scrambles per half. These are pretty sacred so they must be used in key play situations.

You can rollout on any play but once you reach the line of scrimmage you must stop the switch and make a decision to run or pass. At that point, the defense does not react if you want to continue to run. Just hand the switch over to the defense.

If you decide to pass, the defense only reacts after the completed pass. But yes, you must hand the switch over to the defense if your rollout continues up field. The reason is simple.

If you allow the offense to handle the switch once the ball carrier passes the line of scrimmage, it is my contention that the offensive coach is not always "honest" in where to stop the action once a defensive player makes the tackle. By allowing the defensive coach to control the switch once he passes the line of scrimmage, it becomes strictly up to the defense as far as where he stops the ball carrier.

In the SO system, if the player hits the ball carrier at the 30 yard line but he continues to let the switch run till the ball carrier reaches the 50, that's on the defense. The runner just simply "broke that tackle" for an extra 20 yards.

What this does is keep the defense in tune with the game and it stops any arguments of where the placement of the ball is at.

Also, yes, if the offense continues to run the ball 3 yards past the LOS, it is a major infraction of "unsportsmanlike conduct-15 yards". The reason is that it is my contention that the offensive coach knowingly ran his ball carrier past the line of scrimmage trying to add on extra yards with a "Shucks, I did not know or I am Sorry" attitude. It's his job to know the rules and that is one of the big ones that can negate a potentially great play.

One other thing, yes, the QB can run or help on blocking. Here's the explanation. First, if we were paying this guy $30 million not to get hit, I would understand. But his rate of pay is like any other player on our miniature football team-NOTHING! So if you want any type of real offensive progression from this style of play (where stacking is allowed), this QB figures in prominently as a runner and a blocker.

Our stats show the importance of having this guy as a real football player. The rushing averages are on par with traditional averages of 6.0 - 3.3 yards/carry. That makes us happy. The QB can sneak the ball and throw the ball just as equally so it does work out pretty well for leagues that play under this method.

Hope this helps. Karim, you've got to know the rules. Yes, the opportunities are limitless. I have a playbook well over 100 plays and it's based off of various schemes.

Reginald Rutledge
Dallas Cowboys of the DFW and BAM
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