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Old 07-21-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default weight and bases

some of you want to allow different weights for line and backs.
for new comers and kids just started to play, they would say this is to much and go back to madden. as we say in coaching football at school-KEEP IT SIMPLY STUIPED.
THINK HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO WEIGH MEN BEFORE EACH GAME OR EVEN WORSE, TOURNAMENT GAMES. 3.2 IS NATIONAL WHERE YOU CAN GO PLAY ANYONE ANYWHERE ANYTIME.
SMITTY, you and i talked on bases a couple of weeks ago and i expressed then that there should not be a limit on bases in a tournament or league.
this is why the left coast does not go to many tournaments because of all the bases they would have to change.
just my 2 cents.



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Old 07-21-2007, 01:41 PM
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some of you want to allow different weights for line and backs.
for new comers and kids just started to play, they would say this is to much and go back to madden. as we say in coaching football at school-KEEP IT SIMPLY STUIPED.
THINK HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO WEIGH MEN BEFORE EACH GAME OR EVEN WORSE, TOURNAMENT GAMES. 3.2 IS NATIONAL WHERE YOU CAN GO PLAY ANYONE ANYWHERE ANYTIME.
SMITTY, you and i talked on bases a couple of weeks ago and i expressed then that there should not be a limit on bases in a tournament or league.
this is why the left coast does not go to many tournaments because of all the bases they would have to change.
just my 2 cents.




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this is why i would suggest having different levels of play. a basic, traditional ruleset for beginners etc... it would be a little tougher on the tournament organizers, but it would give everyone a choice of how they wanted to play at events.
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:50 PM
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yuou make an outstanding point. One of the things that I think would be enticing at tournaments (and again this is something I conversed on more than 10 years ago) is having a tournament organized where you could have different weight classifications plus skills classifications.

For instance, the tournament could be such that you could have 2-3 weight class combined with passing/kicking and pass simulation/no kick. What this does is creates champions in different classifications. Everybody does not want to play 4.0 grams! Everybody does not want to play 3.2 grams. Everybody does not want to play 8.0 grams. Everybody does not want to play pass simulation/no kicking! Everybody does not want to play passing/kicking. But far be it from me or anyone else to tell any of us which way is the right way! That's why you allow all to be apart of things.

What you will find is that it will make for a faster tournament. Because now, players compete in the tournament style that interest them the most. Also, you will not have guys thinking that "just maybe if we were put on equal footing, we would see his skills/or lack there of".

One of the things you will never hear me say or even think is that what I think is "real football" is the one and only way the game should be played. What you will see me do try to bring more people into the game, no matter what style they prefer.

That's why we at the TSO will always say that if someone has a tournament-type that they want to bring to the Shootout, we welcome it along side what we do. This year, Jimbo will bring the Arena Bowl in. It is up to us to hype the game so that if a person rather go for a championship in that, he can feel free to. That does not say he's any less EFLer than anybody else.

I will always say, I will never stop you from participating with what you want to. Just don't think you have a right to stop me. That's why tournaments are created, to allow for various formats and figures. It just happen so that the TSO is open to ANY and all (provided soemone wants to organize that part of a tourney, i.e., Weighted, Arena Ball, 3.2 gram standard, etc.). It just happen so I do a 4.0 gram tournament but again, Jimbo will be phasing in the Arena Bowl.

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Old 07-21-2007, 06:52 PM
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Reggie, What you just posted is exactly one of the main goals that the MFCA is striving for and was founded on. The idea that all of these methods and styles of play are valid and need to be included. Not necesarily at everybodies event but one time a year at a National Convention.
Here is what I envision and I hope I have the written words to say this correctly. This is only a suggestion and hopefully it will spur others to chime in that can see the advantages to this not only for the MF world but for the many businesses that have developed out of MF.
  • The MFCA organizes the hotel and conference rooms, meals and amenities. It also runs the skills competitions throughout the day with members of the MFCA facilitating this. Educational seminars and demonstrations are held throughout the day and the public is invited. Maybe tie it in with a sports card show or Wargaming convention.
  • Alongside of this Reggie runs a Texas Shootout style event, George holds a Buzzfest style event, Anthony holds a MPFL tourney, LAEFL runs an event, Arena Ball and any others. If I have not mentioned you please don't feel slighted here. I'm just using these as examples.
  • Late at night, a massive MFCA green room rumble takes place. Dinners, fellowship etc...
This has possibilities. Many of us don't have the finances to make all the wonderful events that happen across the country. I myself have to generally pick and choose maybe only two events a year. Why not let the MFCA setup the venue and those that hold tournies reserve space and we tie a few of these together not under one rule set but each under their own. There will still be other events that take place during the year such as Miggle and any others that do not decide to be a part of this.

Wouldn't it be cool or am I dreaming to big?
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Weirdwolf, I would ...

love to be at a tournament where I know I could play using my own team created in my own image and competing against coaches who throw with the TTQB QB and kick with the TTQB. If everyone has the option of using any type of figurine they wanted, base, or defensive scheme they wanted, I would definitely play (provided I was not the host of it-TSO).

But I also would love to be at that same tournament and watch guys who excel at pass simulation with the use of cards to kick or pass and a limit on the type of figures that could be used (even if it excludes FF.COM), I would definitely observe.

I also would love to see Anthony Burgess bring out his MPFL system and see guys playing with multi-stopping strategies. I would love to see you be able to have as much weight as you want to compete against teams of similar likeness. I would be very watchful at this tournament.

I would love to see at the same tournament, guys who excel at the strategy divider, who have that option of pass or sticks. I would love to see what happens after the wall comes up.

Right now, the style that I prefer is only done at the Texas Shootout! (Bama Blast was close but after Michael Robertson and I played one year in the Blast to combine for 105 points, the rules seemed to change drastically the next year.) Jimbo has suggested that at his college tournament, he's considering using the TTQB exclusive and kicking with the TTQB/Kicker. If he does, I will book my flight TODAY! I love Chicago! I am not just the owner of Footballfigures.com but I am a dedicated player, too! Like anyone who loves to compete, if the competiton is to my liking, I will be there! I have limited time but much is dedicated to miniature football. I get a tickle out of Don "Old School" Smith having to sit back and watch and host a tournament. Do you know how bad this guy wants to compete? No one knows FF.COM quite like I do and being given the opportunity to play on that stage (TTQB, kicker, team created in own image) would give me the opportunity to stand up for my product like no other manufacturer. I always have understood there must be structure, rules, etc., but what I speak of would definitely be within the framework of the event.

But to get a smorgasboard of all the styles of play under one tent and be able to go from venue to venue, sampling the flavors of miniature football, is as finger-lickin' good as Memphis Bar-be-Que in the summer time! And Oh heck yeah, I want that chance to squelch rumors, inuendos, and halves-truths as I am sure many others would want too.

Reg

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