Extremely Urgent Attention!

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by Coach Rip

I also volunteer to help, .......mind you, this will be a Basic form of playing.

Correct! Just the basics!

I think New Castle hitmen brought up a very good point about the "HOW TO's"
we could include a section on this also. Again just the basic how to


Geno H

[detroitchild]

This is a great idea! Perhaps add pics or even videos on the MFCA website in a "How To" section.

Great job NCH!

Originally Posted by NEW CASTLE HiTMEN

Instead of a rule book the MFCA should have an instructional book. A how to guide to miniature football. Instead of uniting maybe we should be promoting. This is what we know in order to make your miniature football experience a fun one type of guide. I am about to pertake in the NHFL this year. This is a first for me. Now, I have pondered for a few years about this and was undecided because of some rules I did not care for. Especially the TTQB. I have never used one before. Even as a kid it was always if the receiver is open it was an automatic catch. When I was explaining the TTQB to my nephews they had no idea what it was. When I explained it to them they looked at me with a deer caught in the headlights look but the rules are the rules. If I want to play in the NHFL I must become efficient with the TTQB and I WILL. For the record I love the BuzzBall passing sticks.

[detroitchild]

George, Geno,

That's the kind of discussion/initiative a new guy like me likes to see (and you can best believe that others are watching).

I'd also like to help if I can.

[mantaraydre]

coach rip and detroitchild wrote two key points !!!!


THIS IS NOT MANDATORY FOR ANYONE TO USE AND IT IS NOT THREATNING TO WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING. !


SO WHY THE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT'S ??????????



MANTARAYDRE

[eflfanatic]

After reading all these posts, I think George and Geno finally hit on it. A basic "How to Play Electric Football" As I stated in an earlier post on this topic through another thread, it was my hope that the MFCA would have it's own set of rules. But then I do like the different rule sets from the various leagues and have played by many of them.

As I try to write rules for the Music City MFA, I am incorporating things from many different leagues as well. And since I created the kicking cards will probably be the only league that makes full use of them in league play.

If you look at the rules and instructions that came with Excalibur's Vibrating Football, they virtually copied Miggle's rule book which are a basic "how to"
So why can't we just stick with that?

Originally Posted by detroitchild

I read this thread and shake my head at some of the post from some of the long time coaches whom I've really come to admire and wonder "why not?". When I first re-entered this hobby earlier this year I was really lost on a lot of things. I went to a bunch of league websites to learn about their rules and initially it was Greek to me. Due to me being a freakin' genius I was able to figure a lot of stuff out on my own. (OK...maybe not a genius...but I can reed, rite, and do my rythmatik). I also had some help from a few coaches in my area which I think is a VERY important element for newbies. BUT...I do think it could help if there is a standard set of rules for newbies to get started with. The important thing is that they are NOT MANDATORY for anyone, just a simple guideline (more updated than Miggle's) to get started while one is getting their feet wet. Not everyone is ready to go to the deep end of the pool. Having a place to get their feet wet while they get accustomed to things seems so logical to me...so much so that I'm having a hard time grasping why anyone would be against it. It's not like anyone is being forced to play it. I believe that it's ok to have a difference of opinion on things. In fact I think it's great...BUT to take an attitude of "I don't think it should be done this way and if it is I'm going to sit on the sidelines" smacks of being selfish to this newbie. Try instituting it and let those who want to learn with and play using the rules use them. You more experience coaches will continue with your league/tourney rules anyway...and that's ok!

And that my friends is a newbie's point of view.

Originally Posted by Coach Rip

if you meant something else than what you typed, then you should have typed it


If the MFCA's mission is to promote the hobby, and the hobby grows by adding newbies into the hobby, ............... then why is a baseline set of rules for beginners so threatening for existing guys in the hobby.


I think many are missing the point, ............. I am coming from the position of facilitating growth, ie. get them going asap! AKA baseline set of rules for beginners,.................... or is it that many will feel that the baseline rules set hinder their league?

Geno, .............you chill out!

Originally Posted by detroitchild

George, Geno,

That's the kind of discussion/initiative a new guy like me likes to see (and you can best believe that others are watching).

I'd also like to help if I can.

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

coach rip and detroitchild wrote two key points !!!!

THIS IS NOT MANDATORY FOR ANYONE TO USE AND IT IS NOT THREATNING TO WHAT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING. !

SO WHY THE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT'S ??????????

MANTARAYDRE

I'm more confused than I'm against ANOTHER set of rules.

There are over 10 sets of Tournament Rules and about 50 sets of League Rules that use bits and pieces of each other. So, unless you're an agoraphobe, you're gonna experience a few of these throughout your time in this hobby. No matter how new you are. (500+ posts, I don't think you're new anymore, detroitchild! ) What else can possibly be written that hasn't already been?

You probably won't find interest in this game unless you already like and understand football and unless you've played this game as a kid. So isn't that as basic as it gets?

How would a brand new person find this game? Walking through a toy store and seeing the game, which includes a set of basic rules i.e. Miggle or Excalibur.

Next thing, after buying it, they'd probably wonder if anybody else plays. Hmmm...???

Hey, Miggle has a website...COOL!!! "Hi, I'm new in My City, USA!"

"Hello, Welcome and You should probably get in touch with So and So in Your City, USA so they can help you get started!"

There's only 2 things that could be said, unless you pose as a lazy 12 year old kid that doesn't want to Search for specific topics:

"No thanks, I just want to read 150+ sets of rules until I figure it out and magically become a decent player without ever playing anyone anywhere!?!" :rolleyes:

Or...

"WOW! Ok, I didn't know there was anybody nearby! What's your number and when are you guys playing and where!?!?!?!?!??!?!"

We can read and write 50 billion sets of rules, and everybody can have their name on their own set so they can get "credit" for it, but to what avail if the new guy NEVER goes anywhere or plays in their local league? Then if they just play solitaire, isn't it gonna be THEIR own set of rules anyway?

I'm not against it, but I just ask, "Why?" and who's the newest new person that says they need something more - or less - than what's out there already?

Remember when we were 6 and we lost the rules and just played anyway that seemed fun? How's that for basic? :rolleyes:

Wasn't there a "Rules Congress" that convened years ago to create the basic Miggle Rules? I believe Myron Evans, Frank Johnson and a few other "elected" officials hashed out those rules so that newbies had something in black and white. Why aren't those good enough for newbies and all the others for the advanced? :rolleyes: