I WAS BROWSING THRU THE THREADS

[mantaraydre]

On the soletaire section and i see why coaches love it so much.

IT'S YOUR RULES YOUR WAY.

I think some coaches refuse to join any leagues because they enjoy what they are doing so much. one thing i noticed.

Coaches prefer the sticks a great deal playing soletaire

My question is is there a time limit you put on yourself using the sticks. /

Can you identify a receiver, place down the sticks and footballs all within 15 to 20 seconds.

5 sec's to identify a receiver

5 sec's to find and place down the right stick and football

5 sec's for simutaneous pivots towards the ball for both offense and defense.

CUT THE BOARD ON.

***WHEN THE BOARD STOPS YOU MUST ASSERT YOURSDELF AS THE QB AND THINK.

1)BOARD JUST STOPPED- SOMEONE IS COMING TO KNOCK YOUR BLOCK OFF.
**I REALLY WANTED TO SAY INDENTIFY A RECEIVER WITHIN 2 TO 3 SEC'S
***FIND A PLACE TO PLANT THE STICK DOWN AND PLANT IT IN 4 TO 5 SECS
** OFFENSE PIVOTS RECEIVER TOWARDS THE BALL AND THE DEFENSE ( only pivots the nearest 2 db's to the receiver). This would eliminate pivoting all un engaged players and limit it to either a CB AND SAFETY, CB AND LINEBACKER, LINEBACKER AND SAFETY, LINEBACKER AND LINEMAN.

***YOU HEAR OFTEN "ONCE HE BEATS THE DB HE HAS ONLY 1 MAN TO BEAT "FOR A BIG PLAY.


I honestly feel using sticks can work in any system and can be accomplished within 15 sec's.

***I just dont see how using sticks slows down any game. If you light a fire under the person using the sticks ah la 15 seconds. It teaches them to indentify a receiver fast like a pro or college qb must do. Find a place where they want the ball superfast like a qb would. (ie, know where the safties are before placing the stick down. Pivot the receiver for his final leg of his route to catch the ball.

I would like to hear an honest assessment from coaches regarding this scenario.

***PLEASE NOTE, THIS IS NOT A PASSING STICKS VS THE TTQB THREAD.
EVERYONE SHOULD USE WHAT IS COMFORTABLE TO THEM.

***Im asking, if both can be used within a 15 second to 20 second time frame. Should it matter which is used by a coach.

this is being posted becasue im reading different post from many threads and coaches are saying they are using the sticks on a continuous basis

Maybe a better question is, Does using the sticks change the course or outcome of any game if completed in the rules passing time frame ?.


REMEMBER, THIS IS A FRIENDLY POST JUST TO HEAR THE THOUGHTS OF SOME COACHES.


*** IF ANY NON SENSE COMES FROM THIS I WILL ASK THE MODERATORS TO TAKE THE POST DOWN RIGHT AWAY.

All im am lookig for is your honest and diplomatic assessment of this.


THANX IN ADVANCE
MANTARAYDRE

[mantaraydre]

wolf,

Please delete the word ( that) on the title line of the first post. I know only the administrators can delete/edit that part of any thread/post.


THANX
MANTARAYDRE

[RavennaAl]

Andre, I used them in my solitaire season and loved it. The first 3 'weeks' (12 actual games) I used my dice system, then switched to the sticks for 4 'weeks' (16 games), then went back to the dice for one 'week' (4 games) and found I prefered the sticks, so the last 2 'weeks' (8 games) and playoffs (2 games) and championship game were with sticks. So, having just played 27 games with the sticks, here are my thoughts....

1) Just like in real life, the further out you "throw" the ball, the less likely you are to complete it. I found myself throwing to the backs coming out of the backfield often, though many times it was because they were the only ones open with enough room to run to the stick.

2) Short passes are not automatic! I had a few times where the receiver just plained missed it for absolutely no reason other than he was just trying to ******** me off!

3) You can never be sure what is going to happen. I've had guys go straight to the stick, then suddenly turn away at the last second, and guys who looked like they were going to miss it, then turn like they were being sucked in by a magnet and hit it. I had guys who fell over and rolled into the stick, defenders who were twice as far away as the receiver run like a bat out of hell to intercept, linemen who were engaged in a block facing away from the stick suddenly turn and race to it for an interception...... You gotta love it.

The only thing I didn't like was when you're near the endzone, there isn't much room to throw to.

If you're going to play with sticks, take this advice, turn the defenders away from the receivers before the play starts so that they go out into coverage. It makes it more fun and realistic, in the sense that the receivers get to run their routes. Also, you may find that they are too covered to throw to forcing the QB to either run with the ball or throw it away.

Like they used to say in those old Alka Seltzer commercials, try it, you'll like it!

[Tomkat]

When using the TTQB in solitaire, you yourself can in one way or another, determine the outcome of the game. I use the sticks so the players only will determine complete/incomplete. When I shut the board down, that is because I have already picked a receiver, (he's open or about to be). So as far as the time thing goes, no limit because there's nothing to think about.

[Orleanian In Exile]

If you're time-limited on how long your games can run, sticks or other simulation methods offer a great advantage over the TTQB in that you either have a much quicker setup for the pass or don't require one since you've got your own simulation mechanics to handle the play.

In my case, with my own gameplay, I have a very basic mechanism: an open receiver must be in a direct line-of-sight with the quarterback. If that receiver is in the line, the pass is completed. If on the other hand the defensive player covering that receiver is in that line, the pass is intercepted and can be returned. If there isn't an available receiver in LOS, the pass is incomplete and the play busted for a five yard loss. I've had interceptions and incompletes in my games and I spend a grand total of six seconds looking for that available receiver and it's worked out well for my purposes.