Preparing my bases Xmas order ?

[the french guy]

Hi,

I'm looking for my future bases order I'll do in the next days to fit my detailed 49ers custom team.

I plan to buy ONLY Proline miggle bases, for a simple reason...the good appearance of it

I want my team to be based on indentical bases (because I'm first a modeller, and my work look matters, especially when I spent dozens of hours customizing, sculpting, etc... for that team) but I want to keep good playability, of course.

Proline range sounds good for that, since we can find rookies and TTC, strenght and fast, round and square bases.

Rounded bases sounds interesting for me, since in our rules we play 1base width between players, so rounded bases can be good for defense linebackers, or offense RBs.


Another thing is the fact I play only with my brother or alone, so using one range of base products make everything simplier for now, in an educational purpose (because I'm sure we'll have the same bases and so I'll be able to teach him my very humble tweaking tips).


Basically, I'm thinking about that scheme (22players team) :


OFFENSE :
offensive linemen : square proline "strong" TTC

receivers (x2) : rounded (or square ? I heard they run straighter) proline fast rookie base

half back: I don't know. Strong proline TTC ? Fast proline TTC ? Rookie base ? hybrid-Strong shell + fast dial (or fast shell and strong dial) ? better with a rounded base or square ?

full back : square base I believe, in a HB coverage purpose ? strong TTC ?

tight end : same problem (strong, fast or hybrid ?). Square base seems to be a better choice for multipurpose TE, no ?

quarterback : I don't know...for now we play only stationary QB. But I should test screen pass and stuff like that one day...



DEFENSE
defensive line : rounded strong ttc bases for offense line penetration

cornerbacks : rookie fast bases ? TTC fast base ? square or round ?

linebackers : I don't know !

safeties : I don't know too


Any help (remember, only miggle proline range) will be appreciated


Dimitri

[detroitchild]

...I wouldn't use the Proline TTC bases unless I'm removing the dials to use on Miggle TTC bases for strength or a speed/strength combo. I'm sure I'll get some disagreement from others on here about this.

[the french guy]

Hi Don, thanks for interest

I readed a lot of things on proline bases, especially TTC. SOmeones says that that bases are good, others says they are bad, other ones says that we have to modify it to make it run, etc...

The only proline base I heard anyhting but good feedback is the strong proline rookie base. All the other ones obtained mixed feedbacks.

Personaly, I don't care if my proline based team will not be as good as a first run polo green base or whatever,since my only point of reference is myself and my brother (who is referencing on me too ).



the only questions are :

can I make a decent (playable) team on proline only bases

what proline base for each field position (see the first post)


thanks

[detroitchild]

See below...

Originally Posted by the french guy

Hi Don, thanks for interest

I readed a lot of things on proline bases, especially TTC. SOmeones says that that bases are good, others says they are bad, other ones says that we have to modify it to make it run, etc...

The only proline base I heard anyhting but good feedback is the strong proline rookie base. All the other ones obtained mixed feedbacks.

Personaly, I don't care if my proline based team will not be as good as a first run polo green base or whatever,since my only point of reference is myself and my brother (who is referencing on me too ).



the only questions are :

can I make a decent (playable) team on proline only bases

Yes you can BUT I'm of the belief that you have to be able to tweak well to get the Proline TTC's to perform the way you'd like.

what proline base for each field position (see the first post)

This varies from coach to coach (yeah Rip...I said coach). It depends on the base. I'd put strong straight fronts on my O-line, corner backs, strong safety, full back, and perhaps my tight end. I'd put strong/fast round fronts on my half back, wide receivers, D-line, most line backers. Keep in mind that this is not a hard rule...just a guideline. In the end it's a combination of the base and figure that performs the way you want it regardless of base type. If you can get the Proline TTC's to do what you want (I've seen Norbert do it but I'm still struggling with them) then by all means use them.

thanks

[the french guy]

thank you Don.

I guess if you has difficulties to tweak the TTC bases, as a newbie, it should be pretentious to hope to success where you failed.

That topic join a little the one I did on TTC bases use...

See that vid (2008 tournament with "big names" in it)

http://vimeo.com/5830025

They often use proline rookie bases. Even for their offensive line...but very few TTC bases, in fact. Not speaking of stacking I don't use, they use the same pivot method on lines I'm using.


So...perhaps it's the key ? start with a team with only proline rookies bases (square/rounded and strong/fast assortement) since people seems to be very happy with them, and try to learn how to tweak proline ttc bases on spare time ?


thanks,


dimitri

[the french guy]

No one is using Proline bases except Don ?

[the french guy]

mixed bases assortement with Polo green bases and proline bases ?

Some people said me that it was great for speed.

So perhaps I can use proline rookie strong bases, pologreen rookie bases for speed, and mixed polo shells + proline dials for strenght ?

Has anyone successfully tried to paint bases (so I can use all kinds of bases, including diamond bases for example ) ? How ? Seeing the base material, I don't think paint can stick a lot on these ?

any help will be appreciated.



Thanks !


dimitri

[FrustratedFinFan]

I would not recommend painting bases....it could be done as long as you avoided any paint on prongs and sealed the rest well. I think paint would tend to come off pretty easily on the soft plastics.

I think you will be happiest with Proline strong rookie bases. Rounded fronts are better for blitzers and receivers/TE (or those you need to get open out of the backfield). The Proline TTC's are not good....but you can use the dials with regular bases for strength....Other than that, you can reposition the existing dial forward and tighten it. That requires cutting and such, but you can make it work. I think the Proline TTC shells are excellent for taking ITZ dials as well....but it is a shame to lose those powerful rear prongs...but a good use for a base that is over-tweaked or just is a clunker in general. The black bases that Geno put out also are a good shell to use with ITZ directional dials!

You will want to get out of production rare bases to really make your team special though. Boat style bases are great for receivers. The old Proline boat style rookie bases are awesome if you can find them....as are Munro bases....some of which have true directional dials like the ITZ dials. Boat bases can also make good blitzers...or penetrating D-linemen. Buzzball speed diamonds are awesome for skill positions...but using the bigger figures might be top heavy, so you will have to add weight to the base (museum putty underneath works) to keep your guys from falling over. I have also seen speed diamonds used under any of a number of shells to make hybrid bases that are very special!

[the french guy]

OK, thank you for the explanation

I think you will be happiest with Proline strong rookie bases. Rounded fronts are better for blitzers and receivers/TE (or those you need to get open out of the backfield).

For receivers too ??? proline strong rookie bases are fast, strong or mixed ? If it 's the case, perhaps it's the key for several positions I have difficulties to tweak (TE and RBs, where I 'd be happy to find power and speed).

Can I use straight front strong rookie bases for my o line (a "emergency" solution if I can't tweak correctly proline strong ttc) ?

Would you say that the proline rookie strong base is an "all around" base ?

What about rookie speed bases ? are they fast and not too complex to tweak?


I 'm quite successfull in speed tweaking, and even in strenght tweaking. THe biggest issue I meet is making mixed strenght/speed bases. Usually I achieve good speed result with rookie bases, and good strenght with TTC. :o


and speaking of TTC bases, what about speed ttc proline bases ? are they significantly faster than regular TTC bases ?


Well...I believe I'll go for a assortment of the complete proline range 'focusing on strong rookie bases), and buy a bunch of regular miggle ttc to use the proline strong dials if I can achieve a decent 100% proline ttc tweaking...at home I've got a few extra bases, and all the bases I use on my current team...but I should prefer to have one base style and color, for good looking :o



thanks !

[TVsCHACHI]

The Pro-Line TTC shell with a white dial can make a great base for Safeties. FAST with the potential to spin in zone-coverage