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Old 12-27-2009, 02:57 PM
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60 men roster....wow.

Thank you for the answer. It was what I imagined (making big roster teams to have a lot of impredictable options).


Since here we choosed to play time limited, the "open run" type of team seems to be a good choice too : swaping the fig seems (IMHO) more eficient (and surprising) and fast than take the ttc, turn the dial (under the eyes of your opponent), then replace it and pray for you adjusted it right :o
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:07 PM
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Default Personally...

...the more I learn how to tweak the more I want a variety of bases on my teams, especially solitaire where I can create any kind of base I want.

Although I have quite a few rookie bases on my teams I love the versatility of TTC bases. I also like how they impact OL/DL play.

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Old 12-28-2009, 08:13 AM
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Default you're right

Even if my main order will mostly concern proline (round and square) strong rookie bases (since everyone said me that it was a great all around base), I'll order some new ttc, especially for QB and safeties, but also enough to experiment with the other positions
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Old 12-28-2009, 10:24 AM
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Default TTC vs. Rookie

this is a battle that has no winner. Both are effective for what you can use them for, but the TTC can do nore things.

Rookie bases basicly go in one direction (however you tweak it!).

TTc can go in multiple directions!

With TTc bases, you can create the type of plays that can give a coach extra joy in the game because you get to see running holes open and Rb cutting into the hole as it opens...etc

With TTc you can hide which direction your player is going....and you can change that same direction on the next play..... Rookie bases go in same direction and the opponet coach can know that info and use it for his gains.

TTC with different dials can create special players that can do special things... with a ITZ dail you can have players move sideline to sideline not endzone to endzone...Rookies cannot....
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Old 12-28-2009, 12:58 PM
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You're perfectly right ! But even if I'm just a beginner, on my first plays, I used to swap based figures during play, and almost never turn a dial

Now my "iron man" squads are a little bit bigger (about 5-6 option players). For example, I've got a really good straight runner on a yellow rookie base : this fig is really cool : it "jumps" out of the pack really quick, and ALWAYS go straight for at least 20yards, no matter the place, angle or whatever. Sometimes, I use it for 3rd (or dramatic 4th ) attemps for RB, when I have a few yards to complete.

Other times, I use it for WR, to take short range pass

etc, etc...you get the idea.


I think (IMHO!) it's faster to do that. If I turn the dial, my opponent knows that I 'm preparing something, and since the clock is running, most often I don't set the dial correctly, so the figure go the wrong direction, or loose strenght or speed.

If I simply swap a couple of figs with rookie bases, I'm sure it will work, and that my big fingers will not mess my tweaks ! I can also swap figs for nothing, to disturb my opponent. That type of fake play is fast to use !


Of course, I don't close the door to the TTCs, I'll order some and try to improve my skills with it, but for most situations, I'm more confident and eficient in rookie options. Seeing that "big" players can be very competitive in using TTC or almost only rookie bases rosters, make me understand that everything is possible !
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:11 PM
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It was mentioned the PL rookie bases only go in one direction no matter how you tweak them, true, to some extent.

In LAEFL and CBSMF PAC 10 we have PL rookies that go backwards and move laterally, it's all about the element of surprise. When you set a PL rookie base down on the field and it moves in any direction but forward, but looks the same as a standard PL rookie, your opponent is always on his guard.

Pull the prongs off so you have just a PL shell and glue your own prongs underneath, then you can create a PL looker that moves any way you wish.
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for the dial manipulation-----

you have to practice the art of concealing your intentions. learn how to pick the player up(think in advance) and turn the dial with one hand, using your hand that is holding the base as concealment from opponent. once you have learned how far to turn and can do it without looking at it, you can practice the "FAKE" turn. pick up base, apply turn to dial, let them see this part, then as you are placing man down onto field, straighten the dial without opponent noticing. just some tricks ive seen.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:18 PM
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Pull the prongs off so you have just a PL shell and glue your own prongs underneath, then you can create a PL looker that moves any way you wish.

Nice tip ! Even if I'm perhaps too beginner to start so complex tricks



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you have to practice the art of concealing your intentions. learn how to pick the player up(think in advance) and turn the dial with one hand, using your hand that is holding the base as concealment from opponent.
Sound like magic ! But again, it's a nice "advanced" trick you share
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:16 AM
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. I prefer to paint all my bases the same color to give them some uniformaty
I made some painting tests on used bases. I first cleaned them with alcohol, then sprayed some green gloss paint (2 coats).

The two bases on the pic were red and yellow before. The green paint has a smooth glossy finish, and cover the base very well. Easy and IMHO beautiful. It works great with my current painted figures and my field cover.

The point of these is to make a complete team (bases +figs) with the best visual result I can achieve. Other advantage, I'll be able to use any brand of bases and keep a good uniform overall aspect.

For now, I'm using miggle bases (red, yellow, dark green, basic green), buzzball bases (white lightning and DDB) and I'm currently in touch with Bill (for tornado alley TTC bases) and Miggle (for proline rookie bases)


Finally, I 'll be able to try and use all the bases range in the hobby, and keep a good looking team on field.
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Old 12-30-2009, 10:30 AM
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I think (IMHO!) it's faster to do that. If I turn the dial, my opponent knows that I 'm preparing something, and since the clock is running, most often I don't set the dial correctly, so the figure go the wrong direction, or loose strenght or speed.
you don't always have to adjust the dial, use some of the tips Mark gave about hideing.....

... with a TTC, you have to spend some study time to develop your understanding of how they work. You can perform so many tasks on the field with these bases.

You can get speed and power from the TTC, you have to be creative in your team building to include some.
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