distance between players and start positions ?

[the french guy]

I bump this topic, because even with the help I received, the placing sequence stills not clear.

in the MFCA ruleset , we read :

Quote:
1. The offense is set up using a seven man line and any back-field formation
2. The defensive team is set up in any desired formation.
3. The offensive linemen are given their blocking angles.
4. The defensive team players are turned to the desired direction for “slant-left”, “slant-right”, etc.
5. The ball is placed under the selected ball carrier’s arm, or on the quarterbacks hand or tee. Then,
the offensive backs may be pointed in any direction.
6. The switch is turned on and the play develops.

and a few lines behind :

c) After both offense and defense have set up their formations, the offensive coach
can then pivot (angle) the quarterback and running backs in any direction towards, or
parallel to the line of scrimmage. Normally, the defense can pivot the same number of
players any direction it so chooses.

so if I understand correctly, we have :

1 - offense formation setup : straight lined figs
2 - defense formation setup : straight lined figs
3 - O linemen pivots/angles
4 - all the defense squad can pivot and angle too
5 - offense running backs and QB pivots/angles
6 - defense pivots and angles as many figures as offense did in stage 5
7- board on


DO I understand correctly the formation/placing sequence ?

Another question : what about the wide recievers and tight ends pivots ?



thanks for your help


dimitri

[the french guy]

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[FrustratedFinFan]

It sounds like you have the concept right. Our rules are totally different here in Los Angeles, but there is a ton of variety out there in rules....

[the french guy]

It sounds like you have the concept right.

I use the MFCA ruleset, it's based (I believe) on Miggle ruleset. Id anyone play that type of ruleset, Some light on this placing sequence would be appreciated

[detroitchild]

I'll try to help Dmitri. See response below.

Originally Posted by the french guy

I bump this topic, because even with the help I received, the placing sequence stills not clear.

in the MFCA ruleset , we read :




and a few lines behind :




so if I understand correctly, we have :

1 - offense formation setup : straight lined figs
I don't know what you mean by "straight lined figs" but the entire offense sets up first.
2 - defense formation setup : straight lined figs
This is correct.
3 - O linemen pivots/angles
This is where it gets a little sticky. Normally the O linemen are not allowed to angle or pivot but some coaches or leagues allow it. I believe the MFCA rules don't allow it but you make the call here.
4 - all the defense squad can pivot and angle too
Not at this point. After initial set up the defense is considered "set" until...
5 - offense running backs and QB pivots/angles
Correct. After offense AND defense have determined their initial setups the offense can pivot or motion a pre-determined number of players, usually the QB, running backs, receivers AND tight end. Most leagues only allow up to 2-3 motions or pivots per play.
6 - defense pivots and angles as many figures as offense did in stage 5
Correct.
7- board on


DO I understand correctly the formation/placing sequence ?

Another question : what about the wide recievers and tight ends pivots ?
See # 5 above.

Keep in mind that the MFCA ruleset is a guideline to get you started. You can then modify those rules to your liking or move on to a more advanced style of play/rule set. Stay tuned for that.

thanks for your help


dimitri

[the french guy]

thank yoi, Don !


I was right to ask, since two important points were misunderstood on this side of the pond :

5 - offense running backs and QB pivots/angles
Correct. After offense AND defense have determined their initial setups the offense can pivot or motion a pre-determined number of players, usually the QB, running backs, receivers AND tight end. Most leagues only allow up to 2-3 motions or pivots per play.

THAT change a lot of things !


Points 3 and 4 were not understood too. Now it seems a lot more balanced and with a better "rythm" of play too.

I don't know what you mean by "straight lined figs" but the entire offense sets up first.

See the linemen on a classic setup : their bases are placed perpendicular to the line of scrimmage. It 's what I mean by "straigth lined figs".

Since what you explained in "point 5", I guess the teams should already angle most of their squads on point 1 and 2 (except the linemen) ?