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Old 02-02-2009, 08:25 PM
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Default Here is some photos guys...he was out..

Harrison touchdown...he was down at the one...

Holmes touchdown...right foot was resting on his left foot (see photo) here are three angles of the catch and I blew up the center photo...it was close, but his foot was off the ground

...it is simple...he was rewarded for effort...Middle photo clearly shows his right foot off the ground...he did not have control until he was on his way down to the ground..

All of this matters nothing...the game is over and the Steelers are champs...refs are only human...even when they have high speed cameras to double check plays...what does it all mean...instant replay works about 20% of the time.

P.S. I should be a replay official...they blew this call!
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:19 PM
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Harrison touchdown...he was down at the one...

Holmes touchdown...right foot was resting on his left foot (see photo) here are three angles of the catch and I blew up the center photo...it was close, but his foot was off the ground

...it is simple...he was rewarded for effort...Middle photo clearly shows his right foot off the ground...he did not have control until he was on his way down to the ground..

All of this matters nothing...the game is over and the Steelers are champs...refs are only human...even when they have high speed cameras to double check plays...what does it all mean...instant replay works about 20% of the time.

P.S. I should be a replay official...they blew this call!
That's interesting...

But there is no way Harrison was down at the 1 yard line...

As for the Holmes catch...I'd like to be able to see a time code on a series of pictures...

I'd also like to see a similar photo of Ben's knee touching the ground on the non TD call as well. It sure looked to me like he was on top of the other player and it appeared as though there was a shadow below his knee...which would indicate space between the knee and the ground...
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:49 PM
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Old 02-02-2009, 10:50 PM
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Sorry Matt but those were both TDs and there was no substancial evidence to indicate otherwise so you are fired as replay ref
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:04 PM
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Matt, Santonio's foot touched the ground after the picture you blew up, I believe.
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Old 02-02-2009, 11:34 PM
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coach that said that the officials don't win or lose the games, I tend to agree. Since Seattle was brought up had Hines made the push and it was called it would have been said to have been a good call. How about Stevens dropping 5 passes or the kicker missing 3 or 4 field goals.

As for this game, if I recall there were some where around 80 yards between when the steelers got the ball and the end zone. It should have never come down to the "controversial" play which wasn't even controversial. People hate teams like the Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys because the win and folks can't stand that their team is not in that position.

As the saying goes" It is what it is" and the people that hate the Steelers will continue to say that they get all of the calls, they weren't good enough to win the games, etc.......All i have to say is first to 3, 4 and 6. WORLD CHAMPION PITTSBURGH STEELERS!!!!!! SOUNDS GOOD, SOUNDS GOOD!!!!!!
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:54 AM
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Blow up the 3rd pick,

looks like his foot is touching, and he has control.


James Harrison TD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFpD0QGmfE

The camera stops, you see he's already broken the plane before the knee is down.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:32 AM
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Well, I have no grudge against the Steelers, in fact, I helped Rob make a video they showed at Heinz Stadium which was a ton of fun. To me, the series of events are simple, he had both feet down, extended outwards to make the catch, as he did the right foot moved behind the left foot and off the ground, the catch was made with one foot down, then he fell out of bounds without retouching the field of play.

No matter how much a Steelers fan you are, you cannot walk away from that game and think the refs didn't help them. Worst thing is, they didn't need it, they are an extremely talented team! In fact, the SB against the Seahawks all the refs did was deny us a very entertaining game (the most boring SB of all-time).

As far as holding, that #68 (right guard) was holding on EVERY play, period! I like the games where the refs control the action without calling a penalty on every play. But the proof is in the pudding, the Steelers did NOT have to call any challenges, the Cardinals did twice. Three close calls in the final two minutes of each half, and hence booth review, went the Steelers way (the Harrison TD, the "catch" and the Warner fumble). It is just odd that one team receives ALL the close calls, isn't it?

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Old 02-04-2009, 09:26 AM
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Yes, Mark, it is just you

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Old 02-04-2009, 10:50 AM
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Well, I have no grudge against the Steelers, in fact, I helped Rob make a video they showed at Heinz Stadium which was a ton of fun. To me, the series of events are simple, he had both feet down, extended outwards to make the catch, as he did the right foot moved behind the left foot and off the ground, the catch was made with one foot down, then he fell out of bounds without retouching the field of play.

No matter how much a Steelers fan you are, you cannot walk away from that game and think the refs didn't help them. Worst thing is, they didn't need it, they are an extremely talented team! In fact, the SB against the Seahawks all the refs did was deny us a very entertaining game (the most boring SB of all-time).

As far as holding, that #68 (right guard) was holding on EVERY play, period! I like the games where the refs control the action without calling a penalty on every play. But the proof is in the pudding, the Steelers did NOT have to call any challenges, the Cardinals did twice. Three close calls in the final two minutes of each half, and hence booth review, went the Steelers way (the Harrison TD, the "catch" and the Warner fumble). It is just odd that one team receives ALL the close calls, isn't it?

Mark
As for most of this thread, I don't think that the calls on the big plays were all that bad. I just don't like it when a football game resembles a NBA game where the calls on one side of the floor out number the otherside.

case in point - item #1

Holding - in the NFL, you can almost call it on every play. For those who were looking at the game, you see Steeler O-line holding yet no call - conversely, the Cardnals are call for it on the opening play!

case point #2

Personal foul/roughing the passer - Cardnials were called for it once on that "penalty-filled" drive of the Steelers were that is a normal hit on the QB and it is not always called. On one of the key passes by Warner, I think it was down near the goalline and he is hit WAY late and there is no call and the player took more steps and unloaded.....

anyway, I wanted the Cardinals to win and they came close, but the referees DID NOT steal the game. The bad defense played on the last drive cost them the game.

Okay, you're the coach... 1st plat #10 makes the catch; next play #10 makes the catch; Next play incomplete (thown towards #10)...DON'T YOU KNOW THAT I WOULD HAVE HAVE MY BEST PLAYERS COVERING #10 THE REST OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!! however, they did not make this adjustment and it cost them...just ot finish, next play pass to #10; next play pass to #10; next play pass to #10 TD.............
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