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Old 06-25-2010, 02:39 PM
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i agree 100% with mantaray on this ,that a coach should be able to do what he is most comfortable with, wether it be passing using sticks or the ttqb,same as on punting situations,if a coach is reckless enough to go for it on fourth down and fail time after time and ends up getting blown out,thats part of the learning process of the game.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:06 PM
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Default 4th down rule..

I like it for leagues, I don't think it should be there for tournaments, we didn't have a 4th down punt rule at the BuzzBall tournaments, but we do for the Harrisburg BuzzBall league.

This gets into the philosophy/argument of playing "realistic" football.

I find it amusing how many "cherry pick" rules for their own liking, while under the guise of being realistic, but many of those rules they play be are indeed NOT realistic.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:51 PM
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Thumbs up BANNING OF THE PILL BALL!!!!!!!!!

I had a nice pass/run game with the pill in Season 1 all the WAY to SB I. .Year II the Pill is out.. ..I foundout that it had nothing to do with me but whoever got it banned and whoever agreed ps I have a focus disorder inwhich the moment of my pass my sight shifts and so the bigger helped and increased my desire to throw. Now I havent hit a pass past 5 yards in ages
Heck it was big so if i thrown an errant pass "int" and if too hard i knocked down my man or another penalty so..it was 50/0 anyway. I love the league and a good brother and friend in the league told me to believe in the glory and magic of the little ball "PILL Ball Returns 2011 Campaign"

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Old 06-25-2010, 04:21 PM
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Forced punts in MF have nothing to do with realism. In real live football going for it on the 4th down has far more realistic and damaging consequences.

In MF I have nothing to lose if my 4th and 9 bid fails, it's a game and I do not have tens of millions of dollars at risk. If I am facing a loss or want to try to protect a lead I have every right to call the play I chose when I want to.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:17 PM
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Corey this is a nice post...

I'll defend the punt rule then I'll tell you a few rules that I don't like about the shootout rules...

Contrary to what a lot are feeling I believe the punt rule definetely gives the game a realistic feel. Who goes for it on 4th and 10 from their own 20 in the 1st quarter with 80 yards to go from pay dirt? This keeps the scores relatively closer than they would should you toss this rule. A hidden gem in this rule is that it is a preventative measure that aids against coaches quitting because scores are out of hand. More often than not when the scores are out of control, coaches quit because they feel that there is no reason to continue. This rule aids against that.

A few rules that I hate...

I don't like the idea that our QB blocks. I love the concept that I've seen a few leagues adopt which is turning the QB away to handoff on run plays. I believe that there should be a higher injury scale for those that like to run the QB and he gets tackled in the field of play.

I also don't like the new kickoff rule. To much detail to explain

I also wish that we had the option of doing motions and pivots or the audible. This way we get to do either or and both are included. I love seeing a TE shift to the other side of the line of scrimmage to block a blitzer! This is a true audible and read by the QB when he makes this adjustment at the line of scrimmage!

Thanks Corey for this post! I love it!
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:37 PM
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Default YAC Yardage!! Who can catch?

I've been watching alot of the games that are being broadcast, and I dont understand why turn and burn isn't allowed. I see nice passes being completed and defenses being allowed to pivot after the catch. Why cant the receiver pivot to avoid tackle or gain yardage? In football recievers catch and run up field. Its the defenses job to have players in position to cover, and to make the tackles limiting YAC yardage. I notice alot of defenses stack the line of scrimmage, play 1 second defense (bumping recievers altering routes) and not getting burned for it. Offensive receivers are wide open behind the D, pass is completed but reciever was facing sideways when he caught it. Receiver than proceeds to run 15 yards sideways out of bounds!!

I also am trying to understand the rule of demanding that a coach calls out the reciever he is throwing to. Defense has the responsibility of covering all eligible receivers or pay the price. Is there an advantage being gained by not calling out the intended reciever, the board is stopped when the pass is made? If player is open he should be able to make a catch in my opinion. Defense is pivoting to tackle anyway. As an offense my job is to not throw it to the defensive players and hit eligible receivers thats it!! Help me out. Is this just dumb rookie talk?
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:09 PM
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Default recievers...

Calling recievers i think is important for several reasons...

1. if you have more then one reciever in a given area and your allowed to just "wing and pray" the football into that area and hit whoever..its not a skill ..its just dumb luck.

2. how is the ref and your opponent supposed to know where to look for a catch if you dont tell them where your throwing??
this game goes so fast.. especially passing..its a blur...so if your just winging the ball around haphazzard, how can anyone reasonably ref, look for a pic or completion.

3. even if a reciver appears to be wide open, you may not see a potential interception happen as i have seen people passing one way, and the ball for whatever reason fly in another way and hit someone 5 yards away.

also the qb 4 in a row stack i think is rediculous....i mean..wow...we call for realism constantly..when has anyone EVER seen a center, qb, rb and fb all dive behind each other??

just my take .
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:20 PM
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I also am trying to understand the rule of demanding that a coach calls out the reciever he is throwing to
Calling receiver is a good way to simulate the QB pressure. After snap, the QB has little seconds to decide his move. If you ask the O coach to choose (fast) the receiver, maybe he will make the wrong choice, maybe not (easy catch but no gain, or risky catch but 1st down, for example). But he has to decide quick, like the real thing.

It's what I like in that rule, because it's an important aspect of the game of football, these little seconds after the snap, when the general is taking command. Not speaking of realism or anything, just catching one dramatic moment in that game.

If in MF you allow the O coach to take all the time he wants to choose the receiver, or worst, let him try to complete the pass (stick or ttqb) and let the luck decide wich man is receiving, I think you loose a great aspect of the game...

Of course it's just my personal point of view, not competitor or whatever champ of something

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Old 06-25-2010, 07:52 PM
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Default Picking apart, not defending.

I think it idiotic to not punt when you are supposed to. Having said that if a coach wants to be that stupid then let them.

Calling out receivers:

Good insight into why it is done. I just don't think you should be punished for not hitting the intended receiver especially if you are talking turn and burn.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:37 PM
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Default NEFL - Philly league

In the NEFL you can have your safeties set to spin on TTCs. After a pass completion you are allowed to turn the dial and pivot the player to make the tackle. However, you are not allowed to lift the figure to look at the dial.

You are allowed to mark your dial so that you can properly straighten him out, just not allowed to look at the dial. What's up with that?

I could never understand why you would be able to adjust the dial, just not look at it.

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