ATTN ALL TTQB Passers

[jimmie]

The reason for TTQB is so that you are part of the game the person your skill with the TTQB can determine the outcome of the game!!This is what has made the game so fun for many you are playing with the figures.Since most of are playing for fun and I mean for fun, no money is being made you cant have a career playing electric football so its fun has to be why so many grown men are doing this and the TTQB is part of most of our fun why does AB keep at this I dont know why!!

[Anthony D Burgess]

Originally Posted by jimmie

The reason for TTQB is so that you are part of the game the person your skill with the TTQB can determine the outcome of the game!!This is what has made the game so fun for many you are playing with the figures.Since most of are playing for fun and I mean for fun, no money is being made you cant have a career playing electric football so its fun has to be why so many grown men are doing this and the TTQB is part of most of our fun why does AB keep at this I dont know why!!

Just calm down for a minute, you are taking this the wrong way. I am asking a question based on rules and instructions.

Why are some of you so up tight ? You act like you're doing some thing that you are ashamed of ?

You missed the hole point, it's about instructions :rolleyes: and rules .

You guys are the one's making a mountain out of a mole hill . :rolleyes: All you need to do is take the time to READ THE HOLE POST !!!!!, and not

Please don't get stuck in stupid if that applies to you ! Go back and re-read the post and try to get it right, it's not rocket science.

Every time I ask a logicallogical question some of you get offended like you were cought in the act ?

Passing rule instructions !!!!! Get it ! Does it say this or that ?

Jimmie: I love you man and respect, but you're wrong.:rolleyes:

BigFranco : You to are wrong !:rolleyes:

And to Daghstrydr, Jamel G, Steeler Fan1967, Geno H, and my man Jimbo:

Thank you all for you're help

[WEIRDWOLF]

The answer to me is very simple. If you are playing by AB's rules then you will stand on your sideline to throw the pass. If you are playing by other rules then you will stand where those rules allow you to stand. There is really nothing to argue about.

I would disagree with AB in the fact that you have called others "wrong". They are not wrong based on their experiences and how they choose to enjoy the game. They are wrong if they try to tell you how to conduct the rules in your MPFL system but I didn't see that in what I read. Their rules or understanding of their rules allow moving around the field thus they are not "wrong".

If I were to set up a league (not in my plans) and chose to use AB's rules then we would follow as such however we may add a house rule that allows moving around the field. Are we wrong? In my opinion, only if we try to play that way in the MPFL League.

For instance, I play in the NHFL. Only two backs are allowed in the backfield besides the QB. In the TAEFL we play with NHFL rules with the exception that we allow 3 backs in the backfield besides the QB. We call it the Stram rule since we are mostly Chiefs fans. The NHFL doesn't argue with us about it because it is our league to do with as we please. If we tried to play the Stram rule in the NHFL then we would be "wrong".

[Kansas Bill]

Ok... as someone who, in all likelyhood, plays the most non-conventional, warped solitaire rules around... (6 team game, each plays another 1 offensive and 1 defensive set.. and in the end, that game will count as 6 wins or losses and or a combination in between each "game") Guess What.. I'm not wrong with the way I play... Gotta do it that way.. I've got too many solitaire teams..

I'm always tweaking the rules.. (many from suggestions on here that I like).. I keep my influence out of the game as much as possible.. which means no TTQB for solitaire at all..

Bottom line
If 2 .. or even 1 for that matter... EF player/coach plays with bases and those little plastic figures on a vibrating board.. ANY WAY.. they choose to play.. Isn't wrong.

A little messed up in my case.. ?? Sure..
But I like it..

Originally Posted by Anthony D Burgess

Dear coaches

I was thinking this morning about rules and there is something that I don't know and unsure of so I'm asking for help on this one.

In the Tudor and Miggle rule book, does it say that you can move around the board to throw a pass ?

In studying rules there is some time a gray area that are not covered or was never thought of so I don't know if this is the same case with this hobby.

You're right, AB, it was a simple question. :o The OFFICIAL Electric Football Rules - both Miggle and Tudor - neither says that you "can" nor does it say that you "cannot."

In fact, of all the rules I've ever written for MF (College, Pro, Arena), I've never specifically said that you can or cannot move around the board. The only time I ever passed from the sideline was in my Army League where we each sat on our side of the field and passed with our hand - not coming onto the field nor crossing the LOS. That was the equivalent of Bill Walsh* throwing passes to Jerry Rice** and John Taylor** instead of Joe Montana***!?!?!

*insert any Coach!
**insert any two dynamic duo receivers!!
***insert any QB that threw to their dynamic duo!!!

PS, I still want a piece of them PANTHERS!

[RavennaAl]

AB just asked a simple question. The answer is just as simple. If you are playing with the TTQB, you need to be able to move from one side of the board to the other for the simple reason that most guys are either right handed or left handed. If your team is moving from the right to the left and you are right handed, then you could stay on your side of the board and be able to pass. If your team is going from the left to the right, then being right handed makes it difficult, if not impossible to pass with the TTQB and still stay on your side of the board. Your elbows and wrists just don't bend in the dirrection needed to be able to pass from those angles. So the answer AB, is yes. If you are playing with the TTQB, then the coach is allowed to move from one side of the board to the other, otherwise a left handed coach couldn't play with a right handed coach, and neither could pass if the teams were going against the flow, so to speak. :p

[Anthony D Burgess]

In the Tudor and Miggle rule book, does it say that you can move around the board to throw a pass ?

In studying rules there is some time a gray area that are not covered or was never thought of so I don't know if this is the same case with this hobby.

WITH RESPECT, WHAT IS NEEDED IS NOT A RULE! My point is Does it state that in the rules!

Justifying the reason for using something doesn't make it right . If it is not in the rule then what?

The point is following rules, not the ttqb.

[RavennaAl]

Well gee Anthony, I thought that Steeler dude covered what was stated on the Miggle site about passing. If there is no rule prohibiting it, then it must be ok. Since nobody has found a written rule covering which side a coach has to be on while passing, then he is free to pass from whichever side he chooses. When you get down to it, there couldn't be such a rule because of what I stated previously in the last post. If you don't agree, then simply try passing from both directions while staying on one side of the board and you will see what I'm talking about. I think sometimes you get too caught up in picking nits instead of just enjoying the game. Don't worry about it and just play! :rolleyes:

[Kansas Bill]

First ... Big Franco.. You merely stated your opinion... You're not wrong with your opinion..

There's no way to connect the dots that would lead you to the interpretation that you must stay on your own sideline to pass with the TTQB using the Miggle rules..

If that's the way someone wants to play.. fine.. but.. It's just not there in the Tudor/Miggle rules..

I bet there's an ad or box from the old Tudor days that shows a kid passing from the endzone side with a TTQB...

[Anthony D Burgess]

Originally Posted by RavennaAl

Well gee Anthony, I thought that Steeler dude covered what was stated on the Miggle site about passing. If there is no rule prohibiting it, then it must be ok. Since nobody has found a written rule covering which side a coach has to be on while passing, then he is free to pass from whichever side he chooses. When you get down to it, there couldn't be such a rule because of what I stated previously in the last post. If you don't agree, then simply try passing from both directions while staying on one side of the board and you will see what I'm talking about. I think sometimes you get too caught up in picking nits instead of just enjoying the game. Don't worry about it and just play! :rolleyes:

Yes I know he answered the question :rolleyes:

In an effort to understand rules not just for me,.......

When a rule, no matter what it is if there is not an area that is specified or covered, is it wise to assume that it is implied what ever?

If no effort was made to find out the facts, then an assumption means you're unwilling to take the time to get it right so you take a 50-50 chance that this was implied.

However there is a positive and negative assumption. Positive: based on actual facts, evidence, and experience. While the negative assumption will be based on not wanting to get it right, thought, feeling, opinion.

I am not saying that what anyone does is wrong, all I'm saying, and I hope you guys can understand is this, Did any one ever try to contact the inventer and or company in an honest effort to understand why such information was not in the rules.

Every one knows what they say when you assume something.

This post is not about MPFL vs anything, TTQB, Pass Placement, or what ever.

I am just looking at a rule book that didn't cover something and I wanted to know did anyone try to get clarification first befor an assumption was made.

I know for me I made an assumption on something befor thinking it was implied, and it turned out that I was totaly wrong, man I looked like a fool. When I look back on it I realized all I needed to do was simply ask a question. But I didn't follow proper protocol and I learned from that.

I learned that absents of rules or detailed information was not sufficient grounds to make an assumption, or believe that somthing is implied.

Like many of you assumed the wrong thing about this post:rolleyes: , you focused on use of the TTQB and not on the passing protocol was not covered in the rules and information given in this game, along with other information. :rolleyes:

When I said that you were wrong, I am referring to who ever focused on the wrong point of this post.