Play action pass?

[Coach_J]

I am glad this post was started because it helped me develop a few play action plays for The Seawall Brawl. As a matter of fact a few of those plays are potential game breakers. I won't share them publicly because there are coaches on the chatboard who will be attending The Seawall Brawl and we don't want Spygate in MF (smile). One thing that Coach K-Lo said that was so true and that is you must have an effective ground game. As in regular football if you don't have an effective ground game then a play action pass has very little impact.

Coach J

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by FrustratedFinFan

Also...don't discount the value of having a fast TTC base for your starting running back. I have one....and it opens up options for me that aren't always obvious to my opponents. However, many folks can look at a TTC dial and tell immediately what direction the player is going. To deceive them, try putting the player on the base backwards some of the time! Also....maybe it is time to give your opponent a true devious running back....on ITZ dials or Munro bases....they mask your intentions effectively and give the player more "mobility," but often aren't able to be tweaked to be as fast as good rookie or TTC bases.

The Tornado Alley F-5 base has a "no read dial". The dial has no notch in it, looks the same all the way around.


Geno H

[FrustratedFinFan]

Hey Geno...I know what you are saying about the notches....but the way I tell what direction a TTC base is going is by looking at the lean of the figure/base combo....it gives it away every time...except when Bill Porche puts his figure on the base backwards and suckers me that way....so now I look for that one too....and then he uses a ITZ dial in the base.....and I figure that out....and so on and so on!!!

Hey, whatever doesn't kill me will only make me stronger!

Love the descriptions you guys laid out. I love the playaction pass and until someone stops it I will utilize until the bases fall off.
In my first game of the season I was play action pass left and right...soon the defense kept protecting the outside then I gave the hand off to my back for an 80 yard td run.

In the 3 shots below you will see how i do it.

photo 1 - i use a spread offense with 1 back. We have angles and motions so i set up as if my RB could run right up the middle

photo 2 - i angle my QB to roll out right and angle my HB

photo 3 - my QB is designed to roll all the way to the sideline and cut back up field if I need to keep the board on and run. This time I have a WR open across the middle. It was a completed pass.

photo 4 - same set up as before this time I angle my RB to come under the QB like a shuffle or dump pass

photo 5 - QB rolls out and has an open field to run or dump to the open HB. Had I given the ball to the RB as a handoff he would have found the hole.

photo 6 - I went for the WR open downfield. This resulted in a TD.

This was actually a good game against Chris and he did have some very good safeties. My WR is pretty had to contain and leads the league. The final score was 21-14.

AJ

[andre kc]

Hey! BUCKEYES1, well that play work in the pro set formation or other formatioms?

It sure will with more running options. And if your QB is good you can have him roll to either side with a RB flaring out out of the backfield both ways.

Makes the defense real honest and can open up the middle for the run.

AJ

[Coach K-LO]

you can run that play all day for sure AJ!!!

You can use any formation to run that play. One of my favorite plays to use in the redzone...gives the offense an extra option down close.

[detroitchild]

I've been experimenting with a style of play that allows for a more realistic form of play action pass. Though I'm still getting the kinks out what I have is a style that is a hybrid of several styles that are out there. First you have to at least play with a one stop form of play. My setup is similar to AJ's but can be used in an I, pro, or pretty much any kind of running formation. I turn my QB away from the line of scrimmage just like he's running back to hand the ball off. Now with the one stop, the quick on/off of the switch simulates the snap. There is enough movement in the backfield to where the qb is approaching or passing the rb's. At that point you have the option of handing off to either back in the backfield (adjusting the backs and any unengaged defenders) OR immediately call a pass play and replacing the qb with a stationary qb and running your normal passing ruleset OR continue rolling the qb out to run or pass. The defense has to honor the run because they don't know if you are going to hand off or not. I use this scrimmaging with my solitaire league and it seems to work for me.

Just remember...you must have at least one stoppage which allows you to determine if you want to run or pass. Just like real football the defense has to account for both. keep in mind that none of this is new, I just borrowed from what others are already doing.

Your thoughts?

[Raven maniac]

I like to use ITZ on my TE/FB. I have the figures look the same one on a TTC one on and ITZ. I run an off set I dive right: dive left. Then that ITZ based figure I'll sneak him in at FB in the off I set then have him slip out around the corner left or right followed by the QB on the rollout then pop pass for 10-30 yds. That's my play action play.

Darrian

[NATIONAL]

in your format you have the quick on/off for the snap. Offense adjust first? Then defense? Then offense says run or pass?

OR

quick snap. Defense adjust first. Offense adjust & calls run or pass?

Either way, I like the idea of the quick snap. Very interesting.

I also like the stopage after 10yds on run plays. LAEFL & DFW style.

In the passing game, I really like that attack passing used by the NHFL. Very, very challenging!!!

Nat'l