Spread offense

[Michigan Joe]

FFF- I totally understand what you are saying about the uniqueness of EF and I agree to many of those points. However, I feel that there are strategic coaching decisons in EF that have many similarities to real football. I don't mean to imply the strategies are the EXACT same, however, the rule set has a lot to do with it the closeness of the strategy to real life football.

Even your so called 9 and 10 men lines are simply man-man corners and safety blitzes which is not to say that those aren't similar to "real" football formations. EF has many similar type of strategic desicions as real football such as whether to play two deep safety, blitz OLBs from outside or play more balanced (stacked 4-3) to stop the run. You just make it sound like there is no correlations betwen X's and O's strategy in EF and real football and I simply think there is correlation. Even with the stacked recievers, the execution of the stacked recievers mimics criss crossing patterns etc.

No big deal, I think we would just be arguing semantics to take this any further. I'm just trying to express that there are key strategic moves involved in EF (as there are in real football), its not just about lining up and pressing go and hoping the best man wins.

Joe

[detroitchild]

...I respect your opinions and passion for the game BUT let's keep to the topic, your input on the spread offense. Does ANYONE out there have pics or video of their particular alignment of this offense? (Where is Jimbo when you need him?)

DC

[FrustratedFinFan]

Actually Joe, I tend to agree with you...we are probably more arguing over semantics than anything else. I just find myself spending a lot of time dealing with the EF physics these days....and that seems to really up my game. Coaching is important too, but I just think you have to have the best raw materials available before you can make a top notch product!

Detroit,

Try looking at the earlier post in this forum section on the 4 wide 1 back formation. It might not be what you or others would call a "spread" offense, but it is sure what I am referring to. That series of posts has some pics. If you are not going to stack some of the WR's, I heartily endorse using boat bases or any other base combo you can come up with that can regularly beat press coverage. If you don't have that, your WR's will simply be blasted back or held at the line and make the formation pretty ******** worthless.

[andre kc]

To the FrustratedFinFan, I use a 4-3 d and it works fine for me and I have beaten people who put 9 or 10 guys on the LOS, here's what I do, my OT's block outside looper's, my OT's are put on ttc bases that make small tight loops and I don't use ITZ dials, what you have to do is find two strong ttc bases that makes small loops one for the left side and one that loops right it would be good if the bases have some speed, I have found they do stop the outside blitz, just like in the NFL, the OT's job is to stop the outside blitz.
Now, if you are planing to do the spread offense you will need this type of OT's I was taking about and if on the right base, they won't run into your WR's but take out the looper's, that's just my two cent

[Coach K-LO]

check out the thread and see the formation and tell me what you think

Originally Posted by detroitchild

...I respect your opinions and passion for the game BUT let's keep to the topic, your input on the spread offense. Does ANYONE out there have pics or video of their particular alignment of this offense? (Where is Jimbo when you need him?)

DC

...but I'm baaaaaaaaaaacccccccccckkkkkkkkk!!!

To Mr. FFF:

I just played Mr. Porche and 3 other cats out there and used REAL-LIFE Xs and Os. Ask any of 'em and they'll tell ya that going thru that 9-man and 10-man crap was like a blowtorch thru melted butter for me!!! Different strokes for different Coasts!!! They all had to layer their Defenses or they were toast. I'm NOT saying I beat everyone, NOR AM I SAYING they are lesser Coaches. I love them guys like family!!! I'm just speaking to the FACT that I was handing out Xs and Os like they were candy on Halloween!!!

DC: Here's a modified Spread that I used. Despite the fact that the D gave me 1 on 1 coverage on all 3 WRs "spread" right, he knew I was a "Run First Offense" and stayed home against me. I called "Spread Right 24 Submarine" on this play. Why "Submarine?" Because all I did was "DIVE, DIVE, DIVE!!!" BIG TEN BABY!!!!

Here's another example of a "spread." As in the Defense "spread" so far they forgot to cover the Quick Pitch!?! i had to "hut" my man BP 'cause he scored on me so efficiently on his 1st drive, I was playing catch up.

1. His 1st drive was PERFECT: 8 of 8 passing for 80yds!!!
2. TD TARHEELS!!!
3. Double coverage on my WRs...PITCH LEFT!!!
4. TD ILLINOIS!!!

[detroitchild]

Thank you coaches for your input.

To FFF - Thanks for pointing out the important ingredients for the spread.

To both Joe and FFF - Thanks for balancing out the realism in using this type of offense.

Andre/K-Lo - After playing around with the different formations, including the 4 wide 1 back I can see the weaknesses/strengths of the spread. Andre, you were on point with some of your comments, especially o-line play.

Coach J - Keep us updated on your success in using the spread at the brawl.

Jimbo- As always, thanks for tying it all up with a great explanation with pics to boot. You always help make things look clearer.

DON'T STOP NOW GUYS...LET'S CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. Anybody out there claiming they can shut down the spread on a consistent basis?

DC

[FrustratedFinFan]

I have been working on how to beat the spread Detroit. I will give you a clue....just look at last year's Super Bowl video and the Giants will show you how to do it. Now the problem is...convert that strategy to the EF game....where the interior line is often just too strong to break, so we opt for loopers instead!

[detroitchild]

Originally Posted by FrustratedFinFan

I have been working on how to beat the spread Detroit. I will give you a clue....just look at last year's Super Bowl video and the Giants will show you how to do it. Now the problem is...convert that strategy to the EF game....where the interior line is often just too strong to break, so we opt for loopers instead!

It's funny you mention that FFF. While playing around with it the last few days the one glaring weakness is dealing with loopers (in fact, for me that is a glaring weakness no matter what offense I run). I'm working on ways to counter loopers from the spread. I've come across one or two things but I gotta work out the kinks.

Anyone else?