Tweak 102 2K7, Can we learn what the masters of tweak really know?

[sweetka]

I learned how to tweak from balancing radio control cars, not bases. The last time I used someone else's bases in a tournament I was frantically trying to figure out how to make them work on a different surface. I purchased them on a Watts board and tried to adjust them to a Miggle board. The bases were tweaked to do one thing, they were anal. Now, this is not a knock on the tweaker because your personality and coaching method comes into play when you purchase so if you are a buyer keep that in mind. Oh, by the way, I was out of that tournament before you could say Miggle.

By contrast, one year I drove all the way to a tournament in Harrisburg. I built a team tweaking my own bases in two hours and made it to the quarters. I made it to the semis of Miggle this year working on my own team in one or two days. I had a great team that I messed up by changing the figures because I thought I needed more strength.

I like the name tweaking legends. There is really no such thing. Some of the best "Tweakers" in our league, who make tons of money, haven't won jack in our league. Jimmy finally put it all together to make the Superbowl but it was the speed of his defense, and timely passing, that put him over the top. Norb, probably the greatest commercial base dealer of all time, hasn't won a championship in our league. However, Pat Casey, Simmie Lassiter, Greg Hardmon, Erick Thompson, a pure speed tweaker, are not known for their ability to tweak but they obviouly know something because they have won the last four championships.

Tweaking is really simple. Balance, a method for doing it. I believe in player longevity so I don't use any sanding device. That's all I'm saying because, just like most of the more direct coaches have stated, I could sit here all day, show you what I know, and you still won't get how I do it. And vice-versa

[Kansas Bill]

Tweakers.. hmmm..
I can and will say this.. There is no way I would have won the Tornado Alley EFL championship last summer without the help of Norbert.

And when I called Norbert and told him this FACT.. He was very matter of fact humble.. And told me he had had the strongest team lots of times.. and still lost.. And that I had won it..

I stand by my original statement. Without Norbert.. I wouldn't have won.

[sweetka]

If you don't make the plays it don't happen. If you don't hit that pass or even listen to advise given you it won't happen. Moreover, if you are motivated enough to build your own bases this early in the game, your phone will be ringing just as much as his in the future. Just stay humble like he did. Congratulations on your championship. They are certainly hard to come by in these leagues nowadays.

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by sweetka

If you don't make the plays it don't happen. If you don't hit that pass or even listen to advise given you it won't happen. Moreover, if you are motivated enough to build your own bases this early in the game, your phone will be ringing just as much as his in the future. Just stay humble like he did. Congratulations on your championship. They are certainly hard to come by in these leagues nowadays.

amen!

[childslovegame]

Guys,

Let me say that the information anybody is looking for about tweaking bases is already out there! The bottom line is are you willing to put in the time to teach yourself this skill? What bases do you tweak for which position? Which color bases are the best to tweak? It really dosen't matter. If you want a strong rookie base to compete with a strong TTC, you can tweak that base, if you put the time in. If you are willing to destory one pack of TTC's and one pack of Rookie bases (assuming you have the right tweak tool in your hand) to develop a feel for tweaking, you're going to keep on asking questions about tweaking, or pay for someone eles to tweak for you.

That's why Sean and I did the DVD's, to show new guys how to do it themselves without paying $5.00, $10.00, and $20.00 for a tweaked base. You know what I've discovered, guys are still coming to me wanting me to tweak bases for them after they have brought our DVD's. As a matter of fact, we have given new guys in our league free copies of our DVD's and they still want us to hold Tweak Clinics. What I'm I going to show them that I haven't already shown them? What I'm I suppose to do? Tweak bases for guys just for the love of the hobby? My time with my family and all the other things outside EF is valuable to me. So, don't get made with guys who are charging money to tweak bases. I do agree with Jimbo that some tweakers are taking coldblooded advantage of new guys coming into the hobby, which is sad! I'll tell you what is also sad, guys knowing that the information is out there and they want to take coldblooded advantage of base tweakers. Understand, base tweaking for someone eles is time consumming.

I tell you what I would like to see: Paying Master TT Passers to throw passes for me during a game!

Smitty
BMEFA

[Anthony D Burgess]

Is Tweaking more important than coaching ?

Have we lost sight of what it is to coach ?

How can " programming a base " be passed off as coaching ?

Is it more to this hobby than that ?

If tweaking is more important than coaching then how does that effect the future of this hobby ?

I just thought that these were good question that needed to be asked .

[Brian]

Is Tweaking more important than coaching ? Yes when you don't use weights. Tweaking adds strength and speed. With out Tweaking you would not be able to coach the way you want.

Have we lost sight of what it is to coach ? Tweaking is like Drafting and free agents in the NFL you buy the best out their or you make it into the best.

How can " programming a base " be passed off as coaching ? The same way a coach teaches the player how to run the play.

Is it more to this hobby than that ? Not sure what you mean on this.

If tweaking is more important than coaching then how does that effect the future of this hobby ? Yes, because if you don't have the bases to do what you want them to do, the true coaching will never come out.
I just thought that these were good question that needed to be asked

[Anthony D Burgess]

OK;

But if you look up the words " tweak, and coach " in the dictionary what does it tell you ?

Also the player has to be smart enough to understand his position and responsibility on the field , and on a given play , is this not true ?

If so then how can a tweaked base think ? How can it react ?

We're going over familiar territory here. Let me chime in with a few words:

There has been much discussion in the MD area among the one-stop coaches and the MPF coaches. Some straddle both systems and that's fine. 5-1 the coaches that have given this a fair shake say that this style is more fun and more challenging. Those that could not, struggled and were too slow to adjust to the fast-pace of this play style.

The purpose of any game is that it is a contest. MPF seeks to stage a contest between two coaches based on football Xs and Os as they would normally. After that, there are still the players on the field and they must perform to execute the play. TTC QBs and Tweaked bases don't make much difference over here as your team could be tweaked and weighted to the max and you can still lose the ball game. You will lose because you are not fully prepared to execute your plays.

Go to www.mpflfootball.com/philosophy.htm and read the article I wrote. It's really a simpossium of conversations I've had with Burgess over the last year coupled with my own discoveries (he never teaches you any strategy).

The point I make in the article is this: An EF figure will run in one of three ways: straight, arched, and backwards. In one-stop the plays break down as players will eventually trail off and out of position. The only way to get a true simulation is to stop the board and adjust (coach) your players. There is a whole science to this system that puts one-stop and base tweaking to shame believe me. But only if you want to play at this level. Many honestly do not and that's fine, but comparisions must be made so coaches will understand how different we are over here.

Read my philosophy article, and then the others on the site and let me know how you feel about the idea.

[Coach K-LO]

okay, lets look at this differently.....

No bashing here, just observations......

MPL uses only ROOKIE bases in the system - is this correct?? If so, you are not using all the resources that are available. TTC create another way of creating holes, closing in on the ball carrier, etc.

When you speak of this style, it is a given that you are a weighted style of play. However, can you perform your system with no weight AND TTC ??? My answer would be yes, but I am not sure because I may not know all of the requirements.

Tweaking a base properly will allow coaches to execute plays from the ones that they see in real games WITHOUT help from the coach. This is not 100% true, but for most part it is the ideal that we use. We still play pivots after the catch and no adjustments on straight runs. Those kinds of things can be simulated in your system a little different.

I know that you can run zones, straight blitzes, zone blitz, 'pass off and pick up' - where one defender let's a WR go and he is picked up by a SS.... without having to turn a player.

having a tweaked team gives a coach some positive feelings because he knows that he might be able to get the right call against to right defense (pre-snap read) and then leaves it to the players to execute to play without the owner coming down and 'putting his hands' in there to help.


Smitty is right about the fact that you can show someone the skill, but if they don't put it to practicial application, they are stil want you do tweak it one they are finished with it.