O-lineman "intelligence" improvement

[styx]

I Am In Favor Of The Angling Of Uncovered O-lineman Also The Angling Of Lineman Say After A Screen Pass Or Shuttle Pass,but You Said Something About Stopping A Play After Gaining Ten Yds, It All Makes Great Sence To Me , But Those Rules Were Brought To A Vote Before The Season Started And Were Gunned Down.

[Shabby J]

[quote=Geno H;52109]Joe,
It makes perfect sense to me. I am all for making more intelligent rulings for "pre snap" movements. I frown upon multiple stops and "walking" the players through the play. I do want to reserve the "electric football" aspect of the game. Rulings such as the 10 yard stop rule (pivot defenders) is a good rule as it allows the defensive secondary some intelligence. I also like being allowed on a pass to pivot 1 offensive player to throw a block for a reciever. In addtion I like the reciever to pivoted after the completed pass as this also gives him intelligence.
Offense- sets up
defense- sets up
offense -2 pivots... lineman do not count as a pivot.
defense- equal pivot to offense
stops occur only on a pass attempt or after 10 yard gain.

Let me hear your thoughts.

GENO SAYS IN THE LAST LINE OF HIS PARAGRAPH HE WOULD LIKE THE RECEIVER PIVOTED AFTER THE COMPLETED PASS!!! I was just commenting on that part of his reply.

[Geno H]

Shabby J,
Its all good! Thats what I said...... its my fault for adding to Joes original topic.


Geno H

[Shabby J]

Geno, all is well, I was enjoying the thread and felt I could comment on part of your reply.


Life is good!

[FrustratedFinFan]

Nope....I think pivoting the receiver after the catch is just too much of an advantage for the offense. I do however like being able to pivot unengaged players on offense after the catch to allow for legal blocks (no blocks in the back, for instance). If the "D" can pivot his unengaged players, then why not the offense??

[5-13 Studios]

pivoting receivers after the catch has not run up the score or made it too easy for anybody who plays in the momfl. it keeps safeties back in zone and demands different types of pass defenses. i keep stats for the league, and i do not believe that in 2 seasons, anybody has scored more than 35.
turning after the catch IS a positive for the offense, but it forces a little more honest defensive play within our league. imo.

[Michigan Joe]

I appreciate all of the feedback I think its been good. I think there has been really good feedback so far and I respect all of the opinions stated. Obviously there's no right or wrong, a particular rule that you play with depends on so many factors- board size, board speed, and other rules like...initial lineman setup rules (D in gaps yes or no), is a pass allowed to engaged recievers, passing sticks allowed yes or no, etc...

Thanks to all who have responded. Shabby..thanks for your feedback on the angled recievers, I'm sorry if you felt called out or anything, I was just trying to keep a post on message. You write many great posts on this chat board (including this latest feedback on angled recievers), please keep it coming!!!

[detroitchild]

I'm for being able to adjust unengaged o-linemen during a play or after a catch. I'm experimenting in solitaire play where you do a quick on/off stop to simulate the snap. You can then adjust ALL unengaged players on both sides if you wish. I believe in adjusting the receiver after the catch. As one poster mentioned this forces the defensive coach to "coach up" his DB's. Learn how to play defense to cover areas of the field. Turning the WR after the catch has not created more points but again this is in solitaire play. I just make sure I have players back in a zone and I'm learning to have my corners run with the receivers. Perhaps adding one more stop to turn defenders after 10 yards down field will help the DB's make more "big play" preventing tackles.

I SAY ADJUST BOTH O-LINEMENT AND WIDE RECEIVERS....WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

[Shabby J]

Turning the focus back to the linemen, I kind of like the idea of adjusting the unegaged offense after the catch, as was mentioned, the defense gets to angle all ungaged players thus making them "intelligent", why does the the offense not get that same option?

I am going to experiment with this, as far as pre-snap, not sure yet, I will play around with that too. In the LAEFL rules, the offense can audible, but this only applies to the QB and two backs, maybe a "smart" lineman can be audibled as well. The wheels are turning now.

I do realize, that what may work or seem fairly realistic in solitaire play may not test so well in actual head to head competition.

Good stuff though!!


Thanks Michigan Joe, we are getting back on topic now!

[5-13 Studios]

turning the unengaged offensive players is a great idea, but i would think that it would have to be timed. just a few seconds to make all of the adjustments, that way it keeps the flow of the game at a faster pace.