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Old 05-11-2008, 10:27 PM
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To answer the original question: I like them all. I have built a 3.2 team (now 3.3) and love to play with at that weight. I have built a 4.0 team and love to play at that weight. To me it doesnt matter at what weight class you play if the board speed is slow its boring and doesnt resemble the game of football which is what we play. Tweaked correctly bases at 3.3 will glide fine on a "hot" board. I have not built an unlimited team......yet.


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Old 05-11-2008, 11:44 PM
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Will you cats stop sayin 4.0 guys run better then 3.2 on fast boards...... PLEASE............, all the WR's on my college teams are 2.5 and 2.6 and they can flat out run on fast boards, I tweak on fast boards, not slow boards, you cats gotta put some more time in tweaking if you think only 4.0 guys run better.

P.S. I can play either or, I don't care, but in 3 years will we have the same statements being made,........HEY my 6.0 guy runs better then my 4.0 guy, see what may happen,...............ishor.com, they have some beautiful flat nose pliers for sell (smile).

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:51 AM
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I agree with Norbert on this one. I have some guye that weigh less than 4 that run better than guys that weigh 4. Get in the "LAB" and get better at tweaking, and also remember that Base + Athelete = Success
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:27 AM
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As much as I know it's futile to continuously preach to the same pulpit.........

Again, I DO NOT CARE how one plays or what they play with. It's their stuff, so enjoy. That said.........

BOARD PERFORMANCE is THE #1 determining factor as to how well the game acts. Many think it's base performance first. Close but not quite. Bad bases on a good board will have the game playing better than good bases on a bad board. So, the amount of weight is only as effective as the board is able to smoothly push it along.

There's nothing wrong w/wanting to play at or liking to play at 4.0 really. Neither is it an evolution of any sort. I see it as yet (albeit it just) another way to play. But in a highly competitive environment, it is pretty much at the bottom of the weighted food chain. There are far better restricted weight ranges to choose from for better performance on respectable boards.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:40 AM
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As much as I know it's futile to continuously preach to the same pulpit.........

Again, I DO NOT CARE how one plays or what they play with. It's their stuff, so enjoy. That said.........

BOARD PERFORMANCE is THE #1 determining factor as to how well the game acts. Many think it's base performance first. Close but not quite. Bad bases on a good board will have the game playing better than good bases on a bad board. So, the amount of weight is only as effective as the board is able to smoothly push it along.

There's nothing wrong w/wanting to play at or liking to play at 4.0 really. Neither is it an evolution of any sort. I see it as yet (albeit it just) another way to play. But in a highly competitive environment, it is pretty much at the bottom of the weighted food chain. There are far better restricted weight ranges to choose from for better performance on respectable boards.
board performance, 'nuff said.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:13 AM
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Throughout my time in this hobby, I have discovered that it takes work and dedication to get the most out of this game. There are few corners that one can cut in this hobby. That is one of the reasons the game was and is difficult to play for a lot of people. Folks want the easiest way to play. The truth is there is only one way to play. That way is one base and one figure at a time. That takes patience. Sometimes being patient means grinding until you reach completion. At times, patiently grinding is not easy.

Together optimum board performance and tweak time is what is necessary to really play this game. The weight at which you play is a matter of choice.

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Old 05-12-2008, 10:20 AM
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Throughout my time in this hobby, I have discovered that it takes work and dedication to get the most out of this game. There are few corners that one can cut in this hobby. That is one of the reasons the game was and is difficult to play for a lot of people. Folks want the easiest way to play. The truth is there is only one way to play. That way is one base and one figure at a time. That takes patience. Sometimes being patient means grinding until you reach completion. At times, patiently grinding is not easy.

Together optimum board performance and tweak time is what is necessary to really play this game. The weight at which you play is a matter of choice.

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Yep...that's it. Good discussion! Glad to see Pratt in on this one.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:47 PM
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I have said this before, and Pratt touched on it too, .................is keeping things basic to facilitate newbies getting in the hobby. That is what I put my efforts into.

I can say with a bit of certainty, and Norbert and electric coach also did, is that tweaking is the key to having a successful team and a positive experience when playing the game...........................so it does not matter what weight you play, all things being equal, ...............if you don't have a nicely tweaked base under the figure, .............it ain't going to matter, .........especially if the board doesn't run well! but, ..................many times it is not the board, ..........it is the base that is not tweaked properly for that particular board.
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Old 05-12-2008, 04:29 PM
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Default and after reading some things and talking to others....

4.0 may just be too heavy for newbies and many others to get up to.
painting, decaling, gathering figures from the different venues are enough work as is, and expensive! now for someone to have to bring there guys up to weight to compete is yet another time consuming, expensive aspect to get involved in.
without learning about and finding lead tape, puddy, etc. one would pretty much be relegated to just FF.com Reggie figures to compete. and that would nt be right cause buzzball, miggle and custom figs offer nice stuff as well.

i liked the experience of 4.0 better, but to involve most of the community, 3.2 - 3.6 might be the best thing. more can be involved(and isnt that the goal) , less work ( time + $$$ ) on your team.

but you know what, we can go on about this forever because there are too many different opinions from all over the nation. and though we chat on the board, we all dont reallly know eachother very well. though we talk on the phone with eachother, we all dont know eachother very well. so right there, it will be a little harder for total harmony because when you are actually friends with someone, it is far easier to communicate, stand your ground or be submissive when discussing ideas. this will come in time as we grow, but right now, there arent enough of us just yet. everyone can not be satisfied right now, it just cant happen, now. perhaps in the future, if we keep trudging along for unity, then we can come together with universal inclusion of the members and play some ball. and that should be some sort of 3.3 standard (give or take a .gram or two). once we rock with this for some time and bring all in, then we can break off into our house Monopoly rules and have varied weight for different tourneys. because by then, mission #1 will be complete - promote the hobby enough so that when our generation moves on, there is a whole community of MFers outthere to step up and keep it going.

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Old 05-12-2008, 08:25 PM
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I like...
  • ...my OL/DL at 4.0 grams
  • ...my QBs, RBs, TEs, and LBs at 3.6 grams
  • ...and my WRs and DBs at 3.3 grams.

I also play on a custom big board that is 24" x 48"!!!
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