DIPLOMATIC TACKLING !!!! CAN WE TALK ?

[mantaraydre]

Coaches,

ONCE AGAIN FROM A BOOK

In regards to the inside linebacker :

An inside linebacker covering a remaining back must learn to cover the swing pass.The reality is the linebacker covering the swing will not be able to prevent the completion.The best defense against the swing pass for the linebackers to take the proper angle, come to balance, square up and make the tackle.on the back after he catches the ball and before he can get upfield. He must not overrun the back. If his angle to the back is too flat, he will run past the back. If his angle is too sharp, he will not be able to contain the back after the catch, and the back will head for the sideline.

*** BEFORE I GO ON, DOC SMEBY SAID, "one of the best offensive weapons is to throw to the backs coming out of the backfield "

Why, due to today's looper happy coaches, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPEN AREA WHERE THE LOOPER USED TO BE. He is not in his area anymore because HE BLITZED. 6 to 8 yards gained each time. In the shootout system, you can destroy folks all day throwing to the backs. See don't the looping stop. ALSO, IT'S A CLOSER HIGH PERCENTAGE MAKABLE PASS.

BACK TO THE TACKLING.

My question for you tweakers is, Do you think you should scrap having strong linebackers and just make them super suoer fast. because in todays society with TURN AND BURN, AFTER 10 YARDS YOU CAN SEND PLAYERS INTO PURSUIT, SEND PLAYERS AFTER RECIVERS AND RB'S AFTER A CATCH.
Should your linebackers be super fast to cover one side of the field ro the other, TAKING THE PROPER ANGLES.

Should you tweak your defensive line extra strong to compensate what you are giving up in linebacking. I think a smart move is to have two sets of lb's. During the cousre of the game you will notice if your getting blown away by the o-line. Then you must find added strength. But if your defensive line is handling things quite well on there own, Then you have the freedom to play those fast linebackers for the ultimate defense.

YOU TWEAK MASTERS KNOW BETTER THAN I DO SO GIVE US YOUR WISDOM.
Remember, PROLINES CHANGED THE GAME AND EVENED THE PLAYING SURFACE SOMEWHAT.

DIPLOMATIC !!!!!!!!

THANX
MANTARAYDRE

[mantaraydre]

COACH B-CARTER

Your 100% right, it is annoying when your runner brushes up against a defenders base going through the line. The play should not stop there. i think a linebacker has to come up and make the hit or the runner will head into the open. Because how many times has a defender tried to grab a ball carrier coming through the line and the runner tears past him because the lineman did not have the right grip or angle.same thing applies here. Also, while the lineman are dancing, one just happens to spin and the back of his base hit the runner. C'MON, YOU CAN'T STOP THE BOARD THERE.

Thanx
Mantaraydre

[the french guy]

My Olineman is engaged with a Dlineman head to head and my RB is going threw the hole and he is called down because the RB brushes the side of the Dlineman. Remember that the OL and DL are engaged head to head. COME ON MAN!!

Also, while the lineman are dancing, one just happens to spin and the back of his base hit the runner

it 's what I tried to explain but with better words

it why "anytouch base tackling" just sounds no fair for me, since there is no intention of the engaged defender to tackle the running back in the examples you gave us.

[Coach K-LO]

ALL this talk about FOB tackling..... Best way to play this game to use all the figures and bases to the best of their abilities to make realistic football plays on the field!

We have been playing this way for years here in th BEFL - Home of the ONLY TOURNAMENT THAT FEATURES THIS STYLE OF PLAY!!!!!!!!

In order to be sucessful on Offense, it still starts with the O-line. We have talked about it before, but using a varity of blocking patterns you can create running lanes in FOB that is not always avaliable in ATT (any touch tackle). FOB makes the defense play more honest. Defenses cannot simply run 4-4 stack [where you and 2 defenders stacked over the OG and the center and 2 tackles are uncovered] and speed rush from the outside because they would get housed by the run.

FOB play calling is even more fun because you can try to run traps, off-tackle plays, pulling linemen, etc. You can do these things because you still have to "tackle the ball carrier".

On Defense, you have to get players that "can get off blocks" and still maintain upfield momenteum . You can play lots of defensive fronts and you can stil run the 4-4 stack, but your other players better know how to fill a hole.

During this weekend's games, I was playing a passing defense with my deep safety (Haiti DB; DDB base with a ITZ dail - extermly fast) was 30 yds from the LOS and the offense ran QB Draw and just as the hole opened up and the Qb was getting ready to take it to the house - BOOM!!! comes the safety to make the hit for a one yd gain. Yes with the FOB.

I have played a many of styles and like someone else said, stacking is allowed in some ATT leagues.

We don't play stacking. but that does not mean that your LB and DB can't come up from deep to make a play. You can run between the tackles and if you get "hat on hat" you RB should be able to find the hole....

[Electric Coach]

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

COACHES,


This is from a book in regards to linebacker tackling.


A linebacker must adhere the fundamentals critical to proper tackling. As he approaches the ball carrier, he must lower his hip, come to a balanced position, and keep his head up, drive his helmet across the front of the ballcarriers numbers, wrap up with both hands and grab cloth. He must run through the ball carrier, keeping his feet moving until the ballcarrier is on the ground. A perfect tackle is rare, but linebackers must learn the fundamentals of proper tackling so they make individual tackles WITHOUT THE HELP FROM THE REST OF THE DEFENSE.
***How do we translate that on the miniature football circuit. LIKE ELECTRIC COACH SAID, "YOU MUST KNOW YOUR TEAM "


**WITH THAT SAID, COACHES WHO PRACTICE ALOT
How does an upcoming coach get to know his team properly ? So they can tackle the right way.

I learn what my players can and will do by first setting them in ideal positions to make plays. Basically, I deliberately allow them to pursue the ball carrier. This test shows me what my players will do without obstruction. I will create a hole in the defense for a specific linebacker to fill. If the linebacker passes the test, I then test him without the deliberate hole. That test will show me what the specific linebacker really can do. The hallmark of a true line backer is his ability to shed blocks. Some linebackers can fill holes really well, but some fail at the point of attack (base-to-base contact). I have various tests that I put my players through to determine how well they will play a particular position.

Believe it or not, after my players have proven themselves, I sometimes set them in positions to fail; they still manage to make a play. So instead of setting the linebacker in a position to fill a hole, I set it a position to miss the hole. This type of test is for my running backs. When I run the board to see my running back, the linebacker that I set up to fail makes his way to stop the ball carrier. That confirms that the particular linebacker is ready to play.

Maurice
The Electric Coach