3.WHO ? 4.0 HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER.

[allftbl]

OK................I'm just trying to find a league to play in!this 3.3 and 4.0 thing is foreign to me (for right now) but it would be nice to see something official per league play so we can see and understand and get a feel for playing the game with whatever size is used.Right now I don't know what teams and bases to get (or even where to get the right kind for whatever league) but if you know your area league plays a 3.3 or 4.0 (or no weight) then at least you can start with buying that particular size and know what is allowed within that league.Standards are helpful.

[Coach Rip]

3.3 IS the standard, everything goes up from there. It is impossible to make anything else the "standard" because EVERYONE would have to ADD to basic equipment, therefore making it "custom"...................this discussion is ridicules.

[NATIONAL]

but somebody has to do it!

SteelerFan, you don't want my job!!!! Believeme. Lomax has the best job!

Artlax, I do put in the long hours don't I!?? I meant ain't I as in Ain't I Nat'l!


Allftbl, you are on the right track brother. We just debating
I hope we're not pushing you away or anything. We saying it's all good, whatever size you play at. Just play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are in Texas so you might be playing 4.0 Tx Shoot out style, which is the BAM style, which is the LAEFL style, which is the CBSMF style. So you are in a good area. Just don't put the blinders on to different styles or formats.

Hey SteelerFan, I didn't even mention the Duke Bluedevils college team that I have!!!!! They are mostly stock BB & fab 5. The roster is all time best B-ball players tho!!! Bobby Hurley is my QB. Grant Hill is one of the RB...and so on & so on! That team was for the Harrisburg league. I use to work all day, rush home to get a shower, jump in the car and drive 2hrs to play. Tell the fam that I was working at my Sears part time job
Play my game, then head back home! Get home around 1130pm. Alarm clock goes off at 430am for work!!!!


That was crazy, but I would do it again if they still played on Thursdays!


Nat'l

[mantaraydre]

COACHES

I don't see 3.3 being the standard when you have ff.net figures that may weigh heavier than other figures without ading additional weight. A ff.net figure on a ttc base may weigh in at 3.6 or 3.7 just painted and decaled.
These figures are extremely popular today 2010 by many many coaches in the hobby. Watch the dvd from last years convention and see all the ff.net figures on coaches teams. lets not forget them as being part of a standard !

MANTARAYDRE

[Michigan Joe]

So if mini Miggle men and Hati Repro are the standard figures, they didn't have any "arms forward" ...so what is the standard with figure shape, just Fab 5 figures painted by Miggle? How about field size, since there are no mass production suppliers out there is the Miggle Rose Bowl the standard board size?

All I can say is thank goodness for progress in this hobby! That includes buzzball, FF.net, and Electric Gridiron figures! Thank goodness for the Watts boards, 308s, Buzzball PD2520s, Roller Boards, and all the custom board makers that have set a new standard. Thank goodness for the amazing customizers, decal makers, TDQ/TDK, base tweakers, painters, field cover makers, and everyone that finds the time to do a craft in the hobby that inspires us all.

I love big boards, custom figures, wacky base manipulation, and weighted figures- prabably not standard 1960s stuff. By the way, I am going to tell you right now that custom bases that do things that you've never seen before will be the next great innovation, and yes they will likely be outlawed...at first. Oh its fun to see progress!

[WEIRDWOLF]

You can't say 3.3 is the standard when 3.2 WAS the standard till somebody came out with a heavier base that everybody wanted.

I also want the new guys to know that we ARE just discussing. It is time the hobby laid down some standards. I personally don't care what the numbers are but lets put some numbers down. Corey really just made the strongest point for standards when he listed 4 or 5 teams for different weight leagues. Most people are not going to be able to afford the time or money to do that.

Why go to 3.4 or 3.5? Did leagues do that for performance or customizing? Same goes for 4.1? Why bump it? Just asking.

Don't get me wrong....I think its all good but as a hobby trying to move forward, I think we need to put some classes into place. I would vote for a 3.3, 4.0 and unlimited. 3.5 and 3.6 and all that would just be classified in the 4.0 class. That doesn't stop leagues from playing at whatever weight they decide. It just looks to the future and helps us we lay out rules and definitions.

Its "useless" and "ridiculous" to let what was, decide what could be. I'm looking for something better that gives us and this game competitive credibility.

[Michigan Joe]

Originally Posted by WEIRDWOLF

Its "useless" and "ridiculous" to let what was, decide what could be. I'm looking for something better that gives us and this game competitive credibility.

AMEN !

[eflfanatic]

I recently sent a standards proposal to the MFCA Board of Directors regarding establishing certain standards. However I did not specifiy a weight standard. It is very evident that a 4.0 total figure weight and higher is the future of the game. I personally like Reginald Rutledge's formula for a total team weight that he was using for his NFL Greatest Teams Solitaire league. Here is a link to the thread discussing this. http://www.miniaturefootball.com/for...ad.php?t=14606

If any one would like to see a copy of the proposal I sent to the Board of Directors, please send me an PM with your email address.

I strongly believe at some point the MFCA has to set some standards for the game and hobby as this discussion once again proves.

Thanks
Chris LeMay

[Geno H]

We just need to continue FORWARD.
I think it has settled out at 3.3 & under, up to 4.0 and unlimited. It is quite obvious when newbies have responded on this very thread stating it would be helpful.
If the newbie Coach has information available it will automatically quicken the learning curve. Lack of information will scare off a new Coach far faster then building his team to a certain weight to be compatable with his or her local league.

Dicussions like this are healthy. Lets just keep our minds open and our eye on the prize.....a great hobby with structure, standards and diversity.

Geno H

[NATIONAL]

Why do you keep saying that? He goes by Champ now!!!! And he won't answer to anything else!

I luv a good debate..............This is good stuff tho.

That's fine what Wolf is saying, lets get some weight classes. Okay, but put it like this weight is dead or everything is going to be this.

Most of you don't realize the time & money that has been put out by guys like George, Kansas Bill, DJ and others to make sure that their product was in scale. The many times they had to sent it back to who knows where because it was .002 too heavy and wouldn't be accepted. Or the fig was hair too tall to be liked by the masses. Let's not forget about that, let's not say oh this is the way it should be.
Wolf phrased it correctly, we can have the 3 classes. Dre doesn't know what he is talking about.......you can have as much custom as you want, and still be at 3.2 or 3.3!!!!

wolf remember when we at the TX-SO and we were sticking the puddy under our bases...and after a few guys we both were like the heck with this, I'm just playing!!!!
Then remember Beenutt's team, how many times we told him a guy was too heavy...and then he would pinch a tiny bit off. We get it back, nope still over 4.0 he take it back pinch a lil more, and that went on 3 more times and for just about every player. And some of them were FF.com guys! Some of them come in under 4.0 depending on the base. Can you imagine running a huge tourney and going thru that. I think RR had about 4 or 5 of us helping to weight in coaches.

We are not trying to phase out any weight or class, we are just trying to get standards......that's cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We want to get to some great places, but we can't forget where we started, and who helped get us there!!!
Some guy named CorEy made that up!!!


Nat'l