Why wouldn't you want to play at 4.0???

[RavennaAl]

All this talk reminds me of motorcycles. First they came out with 350's. Everyone was happy and they sold a zillion of them. Then, someone decided that a 400 would be better, so they made those. Then they decided that 450's would be even better, then they bumped them up to 500's. Every year, they keep increasing the displacement just a little. Pretty soon, the original bikes are considered too small and nobody makes them any more. 750's used to be the 'big' bikes, now they're considered to be 'beginners' bikes. Begining bikes used to be 175's and 250's. Today, if it's not at least 1800 cc's, it's looked at as being puny. This is never going to end. First 3.2, then 3.5, now it's 4.0, tomorrow it'll be 4.5, then 5.0 ...... Play with whatever weight you like. Just pick a number and stick with it.

[rjackson]

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4) 7-8+/- grams, base weight (no figure applied) is a far better weight for performance. That includes speed, strength and player stability. This weight class would feature 8.5 to 10 gram players, in general (after adding the figure to the base). Don't take my word for it. Try it yourself. You'll see. I have. And since I know what I know, 4.0 doesn't interest or excite me enough to bother with it. Down side, for some, is piling on swing weight tape ain't gonna cut it for this weight class.

Mike you are right about this because I think when I first started playing the figures wa around that weight because we added bb's underneath and pennie on top of the base in which the player rested on. not to mention dried up bubble gum that became hard as a rock.

[Anthony D Burgess]

In my opinion a standard weight, 3.0, 4.0 is the same as no weight.

Diversity is the key, not standardization.

What would football be like if every one weighed the same, ran at the same speed?

even tho the question is why not play 4.0 that to me isnt an issue, playing heavier period is a different experience than 3.2 which for me now is of no interest. but the 4.0 style on a whole is what brings the game to new levels of excitement.

[Shabby J]

Originally Posted by Anthony D Burgess

In my opinion a standard weight, 3.0, 4.0 is the same as no weight.

Diversity is the key, not standardization.

What would football be like if every one weighed the same, ran at the same speed?

Unfortunately due to the nature of the athlete (figure+base) you need some limitations so that everyone is on an equal playing field.
I find that a 4.0 max is an OK ruleset, it allows you to go up to 4.0 if you desire at certain positions or leave them bone stock if that works for you, but the option is there,as well as a ceiling, no matter what you do, you must stop at 4.0.

I think it makes sense, a lot of people are slowly turning to 4.0 finally and starting to see the benefits. I on the other hand have actually begun to see some benefits in going lower than 4.0.


I agree, diversity is needed, but if you have a nationwide thing going then a weight limit is nice.

Just my opinion. Good to see you posting. You got a college team prepped for the CBSMF?

[Shabby J]

Originally Posted by Treks1

All of my equipment is based on a lighter weight. I am working on a 4.0 team for the College Bowl Series, and to be honest I am used to certain figures at certain positions. I have yet to find counterparts at the heavier weight I am comfortable with, balance, performance and the like. This is especially true for WR and RB. It will take some customizing but its a different market.

Its an adjustment......

Your WRs and RBs don't necessarily have to come in at 4.0, most experimenting I have done, they seem to run and perform better in the 3.3-3.65 range. Mind you, this is my particular tweaking style, my figures, my board, etc..just a note that you do not need nor may not want to put these skilled positions at 4.0, weigh them up and them gradually back down until you find a happy zone for them to be in.

[rjackson]

..........at 3.3 or 3.5 against me, he will never get off the line of scrimmage!!!

I agree with Loc it is not just the weight but the style of play. I for one will not play any other way when it comes to league play but under the TSO ruleset.

[Anthony D Burgess]

Originally Posted by Biglock

even tho the question is why not play 4.0 that to me isnt an issue, playing heavier period is a different experience than 3.2 which for me now is of no interest. but the 4.0 style on a whole is what brings the game to new levels of excitement.

The style of play should surpport the range of weights, and bring balance to the playing field while not restricting the coaches creativity.

[Geno H]

Originally Posted by rjackson

..........at 3.3 or 3.5 against me, he will never get off the line of scrimmage!!!

I agree with Loc it is not just the weight but the style of play. I for one will not play any other way when it comes to league play but under the TSO ruleset.

Ok RJ,
I hope we get the chance to play. You did say NEVER. I think your being just a little to cocky my freind. I will tell you I have a reciever at 2.2 that will get open one time or another during the game. I mean I repeat you did say never. I am not saying he will be open every time but he will get open.


Geno H

[rjackson]

...............---- talking in between all this madness, it just wouldn't be right if I didn't!!! Now if you want me to key up on the 2.2 dude I will do just that!!!!! Geno you are playing this year with us right?