General Passing Question #2

[Tomkat]

How many chances do you give the QB? When Favre throws, he only throws once. A bad pass is a bad pass, no second chances. IMO. The magnet signifies where the ball will go, if the receiver misses it, that is a bad pass.

[KTown49er]

Just to let you all know....I do other things in the passing game as well. The method I have been detailing is simply when I am leading a WR on a crossing route, in route, out route, flag pattern, post pattern, fly pattern, etc. It's what I use when I want to trust the speed and route of my player to run under the ball and make a play.

I use regular TDQ passing when I do not want to lead a WR and simply throw to the WR where he stands. This would be like throwing to a back shoulder or a WR screen or to a WR setting in a soft spot in the zone. In these cases, since I am throwing to a stationary WR without leading him, I give the defense about a second (quick turn of power on then off) to react to the completed pass since the WR had to stop momentum to wait for the ball to arrive.

If I hit the WR (leg and higher) it is complete. I replace the WR with the passing target and give the defense a chance to "tackle" the target/player immediately following the catch. If no tackle is made...both offensive and defensive players can adjust for a run after the stationary catch. If I miss everything=incomplete. If I hit the defender below the waste, it is a pass deflection. If I hit the defender above the waste...it is an interception. Remember defensive players are NOT as good at making catches (or they would be WRs) ....which is why they play defense....so the ball must hit them in a spot where they are sure to make the catch.

I also do not use the longer stick on a comeback route. Again, if I run a WR 10-15yds down field and throw a comback route approx. 5yds back towards the line and miss the target....the WR would then have to go 15 yds (approx. all the way back to the line of scrimmage) to make the catch...which he wouldnot do or would it make sense. So, on a comeback route, if I miss the target, it's simply an incomplete pass.

I guess my whole passing theory is complicated.....but I originally just wanted to share how I "lead" receivers as that is what seemed to apply at the time to the discussion taking place.

[KTown49er]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

How many chances do you give the QB? When Favre throws, he only throws once. A bad pass is a bad pass, no second chances. IMO. The magnet signifies where the ball will go, if the receiver misses it, that is a bad pass.

No...I agree.

One chance to make an accurate pass....and one chance for the WR to make a play on the pass. Remember WRs drop good passes all of the time. The QB can make a good pass and the WR can still botch the play.

Again...that's why I like doing it this way. Both the QB and the WR must do their job. One can help the other or disappoint the other....just like in football.

[Norbert Revels]

When you get a chance, can you PM me your complete way of the passing game you use ?

Norbert

[KTown49er]

Originally Posted by Norbert Revels

When you get a chance, can you PM me your complete way of the passing game you use ?

Norbert

I've never really put it all in writing before....other than what I just put in the posts in this thread. It's just how me and a buddy of mine have evolved into playing it over time.

Most everything is detailed in the few posts earlier but I'll try to put it together in a more easy to read rules format for you. Just give me a day or two (or so) to get it together and I'll shoot something to you.

[HOOP]

dont pm norbert - POST IT UP BABY!!!
i want to see this. i really like what i have read. i am ready to stay up late tonight and try this out.
FOR ALL TO SEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Norbert Revels]

Thank you

Norbert

[detroitchild]

KTown is really on to something here. I'll be trying this out in my solitaire league as well.

[RavennaAl]

I just got to thinking (probably not a good thing) but if one was using passing sticks, and you want the receiver to run a down and out pattern, how could you do that when placing the passing stick in front of the receiver would spot the ball out of bounds?? That would require the player to run inbounds a good 10 - 15 yards first, instead of straight near the sidelines and turning. Would it make sense to have a special passing stick just for that kind of pass??? But then, if you did, wouldn't it make it almost automatic to complete that sort of pass if a special short stick was used for those occasions??????

[KTown49er]

Originally Posted by RavennaAl

I just got to thinking (probably not a good thing) but if one was using passing sticks, and you want the receiver to run a down and out pattern, how could you do that when placing the passing stick in front of the receiver would spot the ball out of bounds?? That would require the player to run inbounds a good 10 - 15 yards first, instead of straight near the sidelines and turning. Would it make sense to have a special passing stick just for that kind of pass??? But then, if you did, wouldn't it make it almost automatic to complete that sort of pass if a special short stick was used for those occasions??????

Again....the way I do it....

The small stick is about the equilavent to 5 yds not 15 yds. If you run an out pattern and make a good throw....you could still make that work. If the receiver starts 5 yds in and runs straight downfield, you have just enough room to lead him to the sideline on the out route. If you do not hit the target though, then yes, by default the pass would be considered out of bounds and uncatchable. Because missing the target= a bad pass which would make you use the longer stick which would go out of bounds.

But again...that's just like a real out pattern. If the throw isn't perfect, you can't make that patten work. QBs will tell you athat is the hardest throw to make....so it would be here too. You would have to make a perfect pass and hit the target to give your receiver a chance to make the play on an out route.


Or....if on the way down field the WR doesn't have the room for you to lead him on an out pattern....you could do what I do and simply throw to the player on a stop route (like I detailed in another) post.

Again....just how I do it.