CBSMF Rules Course: Thursday Night

[mantaraydre]

E,

Im not sure why your question is not being answered. But wait until monday when everyone gets back and this will be straightened out. Greg would have answered if he saw the post. Since he lives in ohio, im almost sure he went to the miggle tourney.


mantaraydre

[Shabby J]

In the version of CBSMF rules dated 06/22/10, it does not mention MAXIMUM line spacing, unless I missed it, I read through them twice and this is all I could find.

I am sure there is another version or it is written somewhere, but I can't find it.

Help us out guys!

5.2 Position of the Players at the Snap
5.2.1 The offensive team must have the following in their formation:
(a) No more and no less than seven players on its line of scrimmage at the snap.
(b) All players who are not on the line, other than the snap receiver under center, must be no farther than 5 yards from the line of scrimmage at the snap.
(c) All guards, tackles and tight ends must be at least 1/2 yard behind the center.
(d) Offensive linemen must be ½ base lengths for minimum distance
(e) The QB can be positioned under the center or up to a maximum of 15 yards from the line of scrimmage

[mantaraydre]

EROB,

This is what i gather

I just read the rues

section 5.1-position of players at the snap

5.2.1

(c) All guards, tackles and te's must be at least 1/2 yard behind the center.
** The AT LEAST means to me they can be a half yard to 1 yard behind the center. no one can be aligned directly with the center. If you don't see that slight "v" shape in line when looking from above, back the guards,tackles and te's up a bit.

(d) Offensive lineman must be 1/2 base length for minimum distance.
**This means to me that NO offensive lineman can EVER BE TOUCHING ONE ANOTHER BASE TO BASE. No interlocking arms at anytime. I would make a measuring base in case a lineup is in question. take a pro line rookie base and paint a white line directly in the middle on the sides of the base. If something looks in question, measure the distance.

***Regarding wide line splits, NO MAXIMUM WAS MENTIONED AT ALL.
. Im assuming the thinking is no coach would risk splitting his line too wide in fear of the defense pouring into the offensive backfield. but if you have a specific play designed where a big line split may work, i don't see why you can't split them from 1 base length to 1 1/2 base lengths, or 2.
SINCE NO MAXIMUM WAS NOT MENTIONED.

HOPE THIS HELPS

mantaraydre

[mantaraydre]

E

shab and i must have been typing the answer the same time !!!!!


mantaraydre

[Shabby J]

Yeah Dre, you found the same thing I did, cool.

[Joe Greco]

Good morning everyone. Had a nightmare trip getting to Miggle (flight cancellations, delays etc.).

I completely agree with everyone that we need to clearly spell out as many rules as possible. As such it should state what the maximum spacing for the offensive line should be. This will be easy to add.

Quite frankly I have worked on so many rule sets that I will leave this one to Greg to answer (I sent him a pm). In the BAM we clearly state that the maximum is one base WIDTH. I know in the past in the CBSMF there were questions as to whether it was one base WIDTH or one base LENGTH - but there was a maximum.

In any event if there is anything else that you see, or is not written clearly please let us know. It is our intention to have the rules as detailed and easy to follow as possible. I personally can't stand any rule set that allows things to be left to "interpretation." We all know where that leads.

Joe G

[kotixblack]

I appreciate u guys diggin in & trying to specify what is & isn't allowed pertaining 2 line splits. As I stated previously...I have witnesses CBSMF Coaches run plays with ol men bases touching as well as the o line splits being so wide, that the tackles were touching the numbers passed the hash marks. I was under the impression that a rule change was made similar The Bam re maximum line splits can only be a base width (front), & I was not aware of mandatory line splits. I thought that the center & guards bases could touch as long as their arms weren't interlocked, & that minimal space was allowed (bases not touching) between the guards & tackles. This wording provides a minimum & maximum on line splits. @ Joe G. LAEFL/Open Run Rule Books have been trying to clarify, interpret & fix bad rules for over 10 years. LAEFL Rules derived from CBSMF/Shootout Rules. The only difference is that LAEFL/Open Run Rules are upgrade, & improved upon each season. The quickest fix for The CBSMF would be to look @ the LAEFL/Open Run Rule book, & take advantage of the fixes, & loophole closures. Take what u think would work 4 the CBSMF. Ego shouldn't be a factor. If it works...use it, or improve upon it & use it.

[kotixblack]

Miggle is over now...can I get some answers please. CBSMF Rules Committee, Reg Rutledge, Mike Robertson, Greg Hardmon...please give an explanation on CBSMF line splits (minimum - maximum).

[mozeek]

Reginald is not on the rules committee....Greg and others should give you the answers....But hold on there ......will be more changes.....Sorry E-Rob.....Have Fun Fellas....

[kotixblack]

Thanx Mozeek. I know Reg is not on the committee, but he is the inventor of the rules, and he could at least respond. Not talkin specifically about Reg but, cats want credit for this and that, and whine all kinds of BS. I actually believe in having integrity, being responsible, and being a man of your word. If you talk the talk...you should walk the walk.