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Old 03-16-2010, 07:03 PM
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Reginald,


Plastic Figures for EF...of course, George Diamond...still very impressive today. Not sure if he went in with Bill Grant on this project, probably someone with more knowledge of that camp can fill us in on that. Second of course was Reginald's, still the best hands in the business (an absolute must for customizers)


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bill grant had nothing to do with BuzzBall figures whatsoever, no matter what he may have said or implied.......ask Bill Porche about bill grant..........
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Old 03-16-2010, 07:33 PM
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I thought I heard something about Steve Martin and stadiums Early on....I think he had something to do with miggle's stadium? Or was it Reginald Rutledge? Lambeau Field?
Ok I'll bite..

I've had stadiums for many years, back when I had my hand made baseball game and made my own astro-dome dome out of cardboad and my fish light! When I was in college I made my first wooden stadium complete with christmas tree lights. I am sure others had made their own stadiums at that point so I don't claim to be the first. We designed the miggle stadium based on our own designs independent of anything anyone else had done and they went with it. When I first approaced the Lansmans with the idea he has said that someone had come to them with an inflatable stadium but the idea was rejected by them for whatever reason.

First time I met Reggie or saw his stadiums was Miggle Convention II in Chicago when I brought the first prototype of what was to be the Miggle Stadium with us. There was a rumor of some "bad" blood between us.... over dinner at the SWB we had a chance to talk about this and got a good laugh over it. I can't address any issues Reggie may have or had with Miggle or any other supplier for that matter, but have the utmost respect for his body of work, and OURS (my friend and architect Russell Baltimore who helped me design the stadium).


So there were many people who had the idea of updating the cardboard grand stand that came with the tudor games. Who the "first" was could be the subject of some debate. .

I woud think it would be fair and accurate to say that the my Miggle stadium was the first mass produced stadium of the modern era.
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The Electric Coach was the first to bring pre-recorded electric football play-by-play commentary to the Internet. Along with that, highlight reels and narrations. There will be another production soon.

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Old 03-16-2010, 09:52 PM
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George Diamond...didn't know if he had anything to do with them or not. All I remember is that you came out with them (and they appeared to be identical) at roughly the same time. Regardless, it is a good product and you should (and have) received your props for them.

Without a doubt the stadium made by Steve Martin (and sorry if there were others) was the FIRST to be mass produced. I like them quite a bit, even have one for myself!

I remember Reginald doing those internet previews and games before anyone...does anyone refute that?

As far as tweaking...near impossible to tell. The first one I have ever heard use that phrase was Mike Pratt, but that is just me.

New One...first one on the internet buying EF games...no doubt on this one...it was Vince Peatros. I know this definitively because I was the second...lol!

Actually, when I think on it, I gave myself credit for being the first to caste figures in RTV, but that is not accurate either. Custom figures yes, but I know Vince had alumulite 68 big men at the Texas Shootout and perhaps he molded custom figures as well.

First Cover Corners...no doubt...Reginald Rutledge!

Brown bases...well...
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:02 AM
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I learned alot from reading this post, I had no idea, very good post.

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Old 03-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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Updated list....I am going to arrange it better when I post it...Years for each catagory??

First:
Hand Made Custom Field: 1979 Ralph and Mark Miller Others of note: Vince Peatros, 1989, Inglewood Ca. Two years later, together with Bill Porche, created Monster Boards, which is now called Field of Dreams.
How To Build A Board Website: year? Jerry McGhee
Internet Publication: year? The Read (Red) Zone-Bill & Mark Klingbeil
Published Newsletters: year? Stadiumtalk-Reginald Rutledge Outside the Lines-Jim and Annette Jackson
Non Production Custom Figure: Larry Walker Other early customizers of note: Dirk Thomas, Jon Thomas,
The Box: year? Roddy Garcia
8 Prong Directional Dial: year? Mark and Bill Klingbeil
4 Prong Directional Dial: Munroe early 1970’s Designed for “arrow” bases
Sticks: 2000 Vance Warren
Current Sticks system: George Diamond, Paul Bartels
ATTAC Passing system: (2003?) Mike Pratt, Rich Parks, Aaron Johnson, Paul Bartels Developed for the NHFL as a way to combine sticks and standard TTQB passing.
Modern scale size spring operated QB: Geno Hendricks-TDQ
Modern scale size spring operated kicker: Geno Hendricks-TDK Note: 1970 Custom spring added to TTQB kickers to give added support and strength 1970 Jim Jones. Popularized by Al Dunham around 2006.
Boiled bases: Vince Peatros
Field Covers: Marc Thompson Other early field cover makers of note: Mark Kistner
Decals: year? Mark & Bill Klingbeil Decal makers of note: Mike Beal-extensive varieties and distribution, Bryan Nutt-first precut decals for the hobby
Facemasks: year? Buzzball George Diamond
Chinstraps: year? Electric Gridiron DeWayne Jennings
Production Three Dimensional Figures: Lee Payne-Tudor
Floating Football: Anthony Burgess
Rules 2000: 2000 Vance Warren, Anthony Burgess
Custom Stadium: year? Reginald Rutledge
Production Stadium: year? Miggle Created by Steve Martin with architect, Russel Baltimore
Non Production Bases: year? Bruno Clark
Internet Broadcast of a Live Game 2009 Reginald Rutledge
Non Production Footballs: year? Bill Grant
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:43 AM
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I'd like to know who came out with the first fantasy teams. I remember reading about GB Glenn's unreal league back in 2003, which inspired me to make my teams.

I think the first 'true' fantasy team to be mass produced is the London Union Jacks by Miggle in late 2007. They also made the Irish Babies, but those are basically Notre Dame. Notre Dame wouldn't agree to licensing, hence the name Irish Babies.
I was the first to start the MFCA Fantasy Football League.
Maybe one day, this will mean something. Or maybe it will just go down in Steve Martins HOF and Achievement room, should he continue to whoop up on us in the coming years.

Wolf,Ken Allen and I, kicked off the first MFCA garage sale. The second to come very soon. HOPEFULLY, this will be something nice to talk about over the years.


How about the new craze in customs - Hands and use of Apoxy sculpt or similar materials. With the hands thing lookin so good, beefed up linemen and flapping jerseys from apoxy sculpt, and carved faces with "the green stuff", maybe this is all worth mentioning? Or maybe its on a much smaller level and/or too specific? I dunno, it just crossed my mind.
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Here's some more first for you.........

Corey Johnson was the first REAL self promoter in the hobby.

George Diamond was the first to sell Miggle products that you can pay with a credit card.

No way of telling this but Dirk Thomas was the first great custom painter. His painted teams were lights out! This was well before the start of decals.

Doc Smeby was the first player from the other side of the "lake" to make contact with us.

Weird Wolf was the first NFL mascot to show up at a Miggle Convention AND play his games dressed up all day.

Mike Turner was the first one to show up to play a tournament drunk. Showed up drunk, stayed drunk, and left drunk AND STILL didn't miss a pass!

Ed Morgans was the first to put a TTQB in flight school.

Ed Scott was the first to do a live rendition of the Fog Bowl in his hotel room.

That's all for now.

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Jim you are so right, Larry Walker was doing this way back in 1990 when I met him at a sports bar in Pasadena Ca. This is where the original LAEFL ORIGINATED from, Al Clegg, Derek Lewis, Rasta, Larry Walker, Ritchie Lewis, Jeff Lewis, Brian Knauls, Bill Porche, Anthony Peatros, Rick Pritchard, myself and a few other guys. Larry showed up with figures from the 1966 super bowl packers and chiefs, I never will forget it.



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Dirk Thomal did this? You might want to check!
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