The Usage Of Al Reveena's Spring Leg Kickers In Tourney's) Why Are Their Handcuff's

[mantaraydre]

COACHES,


If you play against a team heavier/stronger than yours, how would you handle them. If the opposing coach wants to play my team is stronger than yours and ill push you into the backfield all day what would you do ? AND THEIR LAUGHING INSIDE KNOWING THEY HAVE THE WEIGHT ADVANTAGE.
Me, you heard of bill walsh right, i would west coast offense you to death with 5 spread wide with geno hendricks tweaked speed bases. SOMEBODY'S GETTING OPEN. If your a masterful ttqb passer like don smith and don hudson, bombs away my friend. You may look up and the score is 28-7. now you will have to rethink your strength a figure out how to stop the receivers, then when the lighter team see's that, play the hash marks on both sides and run speed sweeps quick outs, etc etc. nowwwwwwww the stronger team is thrown off worrying about all your trickery and not their strength.

The lighter team on defense, their a a million stunts a "d" can run that would make an offense cry. YOU CAN HAVE THE STRONG OFF LINEMAN RUN OUT OF A PLAY AND ATTACK FROM THE SIDES, SPLIT THE GAPS, ETC ETC.

I would like to hear from the great coaches that are far more advanced than i am in their srtategy against weights !!!!!!1


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[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by MANTARAY- DRE

COACHES,

What factors in the choice of the equipment you buy /

1) Why do you buy certain bases and not others ?

2) Why do you buy certain figures and not others ?

3) Why do you have the size field that you have ?

4) Why do you play the style that you play ?

I buy ALL the bases that are available.. No matter the color nor style.. I want em cuz I want em..
The only base I don't have at least 96 of would be the SD R/L Repros.. And I think I have.. 48 of them..

I've bought all the figures.. even including the Miggle Prolines..
I have the 500, Super Bowl, and several 620 fields..

[Kansas Bill]

Originally Posted by Reginald Rutledge

Anthony,

I could not agree more! I have always thought there really was no need to change the color of the base. To me, it was simply a marketing strategy to get you to buy more.

We allow the coaches to paint the purple bases, orange bases, or whatever other bases you have. However, some coaches think that one color over another will give them an advantage. From that perspective, my thinking is whatever makes you feel you can win, use them.

But me personally, I have always saw the base and field as one item blended together.

Reginald

Of course new colors are simply a marketing strategy to get us to buy more.. I always do.. I don't care.. I like having the new colors..

Personally... I think excluding a base, based on the color.. is ridiculous..

To be honest.. And I realize that George is a competitor for the almighty EF dollar.. But I've got some Speed Diamond bases that I'm not playing without on my team.. And I'm not painting them either.

[O-schemer]

Okay guys, what are you gonna do when the heavy team lines his linemen up base to base with no cracks in between, give the ball to the qb, and surrounds him with running backs? I'll tell you what you're gonna do, you are gonna play rugby my friends, and you ain't gonna like it. He is gonna push you all the way down the field and no looper will get by the fence of running backs.

Now the one thing he believes in is strength, so he sends off to Norbert, Jim, and Geno and he loads these big old dudes with the strongest bases on the planet. I don't care who it is, you won't have a chance, he will control the clock and keep the ball through most of the game.

The reason you have to have certain rules is to force guys to open up and get some game. Most leagues have at least 1 guy who would live off this play if you let him. He is the guy who won't try the TTQB no matter what. So you bring in line splits, formation rules, etc. just to make him play the game like football.

The guy I'm speaking of is the reason for the limits. Most of us use common sense and play by the rules, but there's always 1 who can't seem to set up with quickness or split his guys wide enough or use a formation that actually resembles football. He is the reason for standards.

[mantaraydre]

Their are coaches who still want to play stack the rack, that's why i like the divider in the sea wall brawl. You MUST put your lineman in their right slot, also receivers and te's. The stack method of playing is not real football, i love coaches with offensive playbooks and run their assortment of play's mixing things up. The 308 and scale size boards are ideal for open play. I think their are some coaches/leagues who still wont embrace this method. If their is a leauge or coach who likes to play stack them up , PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY YOU LIKE AND WANT THAT STYLE OF PLAY. We have got to hear this !

OURS EARS AND EYES ARE OPEN AND WAITING FOR THIS ONE.


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[mantaraydre]

COACHES,


I know alot of you like the colored bases, but in my opinion it makeS the game look like a toy again. This sport has evolved so much that we are too elaborate for that type of color change. If i were a base manufacturer, i would spend more time getting the bases to look more and more like grass. Maybe the shell can be grainier with a grassy look (still hard plastic). If someone can paint fields to look like grass, then someone can figure out how to make a base like that.

Two exceptions, the WHITE BASES AND THE BLUE BASES, here's why
I have a blue mantaray field reg rutledge made for me, i asked for blue to represent my ray's being in the water. I also have a BUFFALO BILLS SNOW FIELD AND A MINNESOTA VIKINGS SNOW FIELD. I asked reg rutledge to make them so the game looked as if it was played in a blizzard, the white base represent the snow !!!!!! (THAT'S JUST ME!) I wont play with those two colors unless they are on those fields i mentioned, if i took the teams to a tourney i will play with green bases. But, if i bought my mantaray field to play on and i had home field advantage, you will have to get into the water.
" THE OCEAN IS ANGRY MY FRIEND"

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Tron Speaks!

It's good to see a nice civilized post! Coaches exchanging ideas, dogs and cats living together? It's mass hysteria! I too believe that their must be some changes in the rules we use, but you guys know each other all to well. Without some form of RULES and Structure people will come to games with figures dripping glue and clay, bases with gears mounted underneath and robotic QB's and kickers! Creativity is great but the masses have proven time and again they must be ruled with an iron hand and a steal grip!Crush all enemies and see them driven before you! Just play weighted and be done with it! The great and powerful TRON has spoken! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

[Coach K-LO]

Originally Posted by O-schemer

Okay guys, what are you gonna do when the heavy team lines his linemen up base to base with no cracks in between, give the ball to the qb, and surrounds him with running backs? I'll tell you what you're gonna do, you are gonna play rugby my friends, and you ain't gonna like it. He is gonna push you all the way down the field and no looper will get by the fence of running backs.

Now the one thing he believes in is strength, so he sends off to Norbert, Jim, and Geno and he loads these big old dudes with the strongest bases on the planet. I don't care who it is, you won't have a chance, he will control the clock and keep the ball through most of the game.

The reason you have to have certain rules is to force guys to open up and get some game. Most leagues have at least 1 guy who would live off this play if you let him. He is the guy who won't try the TTQB no matter what. So you bring in line splits, formation rules, etc. just to make him play the game like football.

The guy I'm speaking of is the reason for the limits. Most of us use common sense and play by the rules, but there's always 1 who can't seem to set up with quickness or split his guys wide enough or use a formation that actually resembles football. He is the reason for standards.

We have plenty of guys like this in our league and in leagues I have played in the past.

I have seen guys with larger fields STILL keep their lines tight with little space. Why, because they want to have more "open" space to the flanks or outside to make a players miss a tackle (either style).

Divider Style addresses this a little bit, but you cannot angle your o-line which is still a limitation.

Why not try this for the next few months - only use standard defensive formations where D-linemen have to just barely shade offensive linemen; LB's including the aka looper must be at least 5 yds from LOS (outside) and 10yds back in the middle.
O-line can be angled or straight but must maintain a placement stick between each player on the larger size fields.

No QB running into the line for blocking help (think of NFL QB's here) bootlegs are fine shotgun formation is fine except that the QB still cannot run into the line.

you can take some practice time to try this at home..... then after working with it, all report back their findings. Not to say some don't already know this, but just another way to examine some different ways to approch this.

K-LO

[mozeek]

will this be a rule in our league...where we must have a gap between our o-linemen...i like that

[Coach K-LO]

Moe-Moe

I think it is in there, but some don't use it. I think it could improve game play when you play FOB because it makes you setup blocking angles and makes creating running lanes easy.