3.WHO ? 4.0 HAS OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER.

[the french guy]

Dmitri, in that case 3.2 would be the top end of that weight class. If your guy comes in at 2.9 and you want to keep him there then that's ok. If you want to add weight to him to get up to 3.2 then that's ok as well as long as he does not go over 3.2.

It's the way I think. For a "stock" category, 3.2g is a good candidate I believe.

[detroitchild]

Originally Posted by the french guy

It's the way I think. For a "stock" category, 3.2g is a good candidate I believe.

I think making a "stock" category is putting to fine a point on it. I say make it 3.2 (I'm a 4.0 guy myself) and let the coach decide if he wants to use stock or customized figures...as long as he/she does not go over 3.2.

[the french guy]

3.2grams...or 3.3 that is the question

If you think about the guys who will buy a miggle set, or an old tudor complete set with fab5 figs and miggle bases, these guys will start playing with teams under 3.0-3.2grams (even with ttc and facemasks).

I just tested a unpainted buzzball fig on a ttc : 2.97 grams. A painted miggle (I believe) on a ttc : 2.75grams.

So making a 3.0grams category is too tight and restrictive. BUT I don't know if once it's painted, facemask (and perhaps with flocked plateform) and on a DDB base, we raise easily the 3.2grams or more ? It's one think we should think to know if we should go for a "starter" category under 3.2 or 3.3grams.

[WEIRDWOLF]

I think one thing that should be considered is how much weight adds up to a competitive disadvantage? Can a 3.3 compete effectively with a 4.0 if all other variables are the same? If we ask that question, at what point is their a substantial difference?

How did boxing decide that a 160 pounder had a competitive disadvantage to a 168 pounder and created midleweight and super middleweight as well as numerous other divisions..

[the french guy]

Can a 3.3 compete effectively with a 4.0 if all other variables are the same? If we ask that question, at what point is their a substantial difference?

For my linemen, it's obvious :




Same tweaking (I can swap the bases with same result), the weight make my 4.0 (certainly a little more, between 4.0 and 4.2) niner stronger than my 3.0 packer.

[RavennaAl]

My friend and I did some research into this many years ago. We found that around .3 is where you start noticing the difference. .1 doesn't really mean a thing. .2 and sometimes there's a difference, but not much. .3 and things change. by .5 the lighter guy will start going backwards consistently. For anyone who is interested, a BB weighs appx. .4grams Put a BB under a rookie base and it will weigh pretty much the same as a TTC base.

Keep in mind that this is with all other things being equal as far as tweaking goes. A well tweaked base will push back a poor tweaked base, even if it is lighter than the poor base.