The Usage Of Al Reveena's Spring Leg Kickers In Tourney's) Why Are Their Handcuff's

Colored Bases: I liken the base, especially the colored bases as an extension of the players' shoes, not the grass. Half full, half empty. Different perspective, huh? I CANNOT mismatch colors, so you'll NEVER see an blue or purple base on my BUCS!!! Or any color other than green on my Michigan State SPARTANS or EAGLES, etc. That's just me. There is NO advantage to using a different color - I tweak ALL of my guys to "play" their positions NOT just to be able to bulldoze each and every player on someone else's team.

David vs. GOLIATH: Speaking of that, WHY do some guys think that if each and every one of their players is stronger than each and every one of someone else's, their gonna win??? I don't get it. 22 Julius Peppers WILL NOT win most games! 22 Neon Deieons WILL NOT win most games. 22 World's Strongest Men WILL NOT win most games. It's ludicrous the time people put into each and every player to make them stronger than a FORD 450 Super Duty!?!?!?!?!

Both of my OTs on my BENGALS are NOT the strongest players on my team. BUT...I designed the figure and trained the base to ride the guy in front them back and around the QB / RB pocket - JUST LIKE REAL LIFE!!! Imagine that!?!

Weights vs. Non-Weights: Remember when there was no such thing as tweaking? Who had a box full of bases that we thought were worthless and useless? Then Tweaking 101 was made OFFICIAL and everybody's "stash" became a goldmine, right? Tweaking made/makes any and ALL bases useable. Adding weight makes any and ALL bases useable on ANY gameboard and it makes those bases MORE reliable.

Experiment 1: Grab your bestest, fastest, straightest, most beautifullest player and run him up and down the field between the hashes 10 times. How many times did he veer outside the lines?

Experiment 2: If he can hold the weight without bottoming out, kid-glue a 1/2" nut underneath him and run the same experiment. Any difference?

Which car would hug the curves and which would flip at the Indy 500? An OFFICIAL IROC-Z or a factory built Camaro? Why? Weight, distribution, tires, fuel, etc. Same with bases and weight guys. It's NOT to give one guy the advantage over another! Everyone can do it. BUT, I do still think there should be some disparity between every player's weight. I DON'T think each and EVERY player should be the same weight.

Weight Classes: The aforementioned weight classes (4.0, 3.6 and 3.2) would be perfect for the Intermediate Class of playing. Out of the bag, unmodified, works best for Beginners. And, AB if you had to put 3 groups of weights on your system what would OL/DL weigh? RBs, TEs and LBs? WRs and DBs? Just play along. Your league can keep on keepin' on, but I personally would like this answered based on what you deem successful in The MPFL. Thanks.

Line Splits vs. I wanna Hold Your Ha-a-a-a-a-and! Rugby is so British and so is Cricket, so is the way most leagues still play, BUT, that's how they have F-U-N, let 'em be. Opening holes and running a "Holy Moses" with Cadillac or A-Train is even MORE F-U-N IMHO!!!

"Lining up 11 vs 11 is SOOOO easy, a caveman can do it!"

Brainless OL: I love that AB's MPFL System allows for this, but I haven't quite gotten my team up to snuff yet. Michigan Joe and I scrimmed a lil last night (WOLVIES vs. WILDCATS) and we had a few chances to turn our OL back and cutoff a faster DE or crack an LB at the 2nd level and even a SS at the 3rd level!!! So, unless we can angle our OL after the DL sets, they're still mindless until a stoppage, and then they have to be unengaged. Closer to realism, but not yet, unless we allow the angles before the snap. Then, of course, we'd have to allow LBs to angle in or out of the hole being clogged or opened. Stay tuned for further play testing!

That's it for now, I wanna read some more! Good Stuff, Dre! Keep them comin'! Oh yeah, Manta Ray meat TASTES GREAT, but it gives me gas!

[Coach K-LO]

very good points, Jimbo.

[mantaraydre]

COACHES,


jimbo makes some incredible points, that is a great post. Im glad this entire weight topic is the order of the day because i think alot of us are unsure about the entire topic. Breakdowns and blueprints regarding how players perform with weight or no weight needs to be in black and white. Coaches ad weight for more strength but maybe they have the wrong idea. I spoke with a coach on the phone and he asked me do i want the weight standard increased to add a manufactures figure (reggies) to my team. The answer was yes I like and want to use his figures without having to shave, drill and cut just to play in a tourney with a weight standard lighter than his figures. His figures are now part of the standard, their a little heavier and old standards need to be ajusted. Should his fig's be left out because they dont fit the old guard, ofcourse not.

I understand their has to be a cut off point, reg has been around a long time and his figs derserve to be the bar for the new standard. What if a new manufacturer made fig's heavier than ff.com fig's, that new figures maker needs to read the cut off NEW standard weight and know they cant go any higher than that. (Whatever is the heaviest ff.com figure out of the bag unpainted should be the cut point.( 2.whatever gram)

I would like to hear other breakdowns of weighted performances vs non weighted performance.

ONE OTHER THING- During a tourney i think their are some coaches that have the weight situation mixed up. When the rules say weight must be 3.0 or 3.2, i think coaches think every player should weigh the 3.0 or 3.2. You can have players weigh less like 2.8 or 2.6, their you would have your weight differences, but alot are focused on the 3.2 (my stupid self included) I think if a coach has a player 2.8 he feels the other coaches players are 3.2 so he must match that! Any new or fairly new guy in the hobby needs to see some serious breakdowns and explanations. sometimes we make think we know but we are suprised when we find someone lese's take on things.

HOW TO USE WEIGHT NEEDS SOME SERIOUS DISCUSSION, NOW I FEEL LIKE IM BACK IN SCHOOL BECAUSE YOU GUY'S KNOW MORE THAN I!!!

IM ALL FOR THE (4.0, 3.6. 3.2) JIMBO AND REG RUTLEDGE NEED TO BREAK THIS DOWN EVEN FURTHER " Learning a great deal from this post)

MANTARAY OFFICES

hey jimbo, if you come to the shootout, THE TITANIC is going to have company come sept 10th ( sunken pirate ships filled with darts are coming)

[Geno H]

Dre,
Your quote:[I]I understand their has to be a cut off point, reg has been around a long time and his figs derserve to be the bar for the new standard. What if a new manufacturer made fig's heavier than ff.com fig's, that new figures maker needs to read the cut off NEW standard weight and know they cant go any higher than that. (Whatever is the heaviest ff.com figure out of the bag unpainted should be the cut point[/i]

This possibilty is what scares people to increase the size or weight.We do not want it to become an arms race.

Now remember I am for the split weights I am the first on this post to mention it. I just think this should be in the foremost part of our mind while we create these changes

Geno H

May the G-FORCE be with you!

[Anthony D Burgess]

Jimbo

Man , now let me see,.............If I hade to give guys ideas for weight by position , I would say OL,DL between 8 and 10 grams , TE , 8-10 , WR's , QB's 7-9, RB's 7-9, LB's , SS's DB's 7-9 .

Now on the OL , Yea man when you can think and react things change , but your in for some fun .

[broncoman]

first thought, you should be able to use any kicker you want. how many times do you use a kicker in a game anyway?????
as far as weight on men, think about this. how many of you take the time to weigh your oppents men before a game or tournament. and useing different weighs, this could take a lot of time. kids and new comers want go for that. they will say that is to much trouble and go back to madden.
if all stay at 3.2, they can feel more comfortable and ready to play.
don't get me wrong, change is good as long as it is for the better and not to help get ahead.
SMITTY, you and i just dicussed this on the phone 2 weeks ago about bases,
boat bases. that is why a lot of the west coast want go east cause of base restriction.
just my 2 cents.




broncoman

[RavennaAl]

Well so far, I'ld like to thank everyone for the support on the kickers. They're easy enough to make, more reliable and stronger than regular ones, and if the kicker is painted, almost undetectable. As far as bases go, I'm confused with what the big deal is with boat bases. What's "wrong" with them? Is it because they're too wide or too long? Too heavy? Aren't they still readily available? Why aren't they allowed? I'm clueless.

...'cause ya'll SCARED!!! :p <<<---Smiley faces mean I was kinda kiddin'!?! :p

Today's coaches are trending toward bigger boards i.e. ff.com's 308 and MegaWattz' Fields which means bigger or more motors which means the little 3.2 guys get tossed around. Sure you can compensate a lil bit with different tweaking methods, BUT adding a nut or washers or lead tape or playing with ff.coms unmodified INSTANTLY improves most bases' performance WHILE AT THE SAME TIME it allows for faster game speed. I pray I never have to play another 4 hour game because the speed is set so slow because the board vibrates so badly guys fall over each and EVERY time the board is switched on! :rolleyes:

If new manufacturers - WHY??? - made figures then they should match what is in existence.

What if ALL figures were made to 1.8 grams and the platforms were adjustable i.e. cut into grid squares which could be broken off or cutoff a square at a time until the desired weight is achieved? That's a freebie for whoever, but I'd like a lil love thrown my way in the form of 200 FREE bags of figures when you make 'em!!!

And back to what Mike in Vegas was saying, "YA'LL SCARED!!!!"

AL: Boat bases were 1st prohibited because they weren't readily available to everyone anymore. When ****** released their 1st run Pro Lines, those "bullet bases" were significantly longer and wider than the normal bases. Even the rounded front PLs of today aren't allowed because MOST coaches can't play a Zone Defense and WRs on those bases cannot be or are less likely to be grabbed and mauled at the LOS. Pathetic if you ask me.

Also most people play the dreaded 10-1 Defense so as soon as the ball is snapped, any receivers on rounded PLs are instantly past the LOS. It doesn't give the O an advantage in my book because I would put my DL on them!?! Hmmm....??? Honestly, if you create a CB that can bump-n-run, like Cover Corners are supposed to do - it's defendable. PLUS, if you get a rush on the QB or get your guys in passing lanes - REAL Football anyone??? - then it really should be a non-issue. :rolleyes: Restrictions in this regard are for lesser coaches....correction...players.

1) Why do you buy certain bases and not others ?

2) Why do you buy certain figures and not others ?

3) Why do you have the size field that you have ?

4) Why do you play the style that you play ?

West Coast guy answering the questions

1. I buy all of the different styles of bases so that I don't miss out on anything. If somebody comes up with something I want to be able to try it right away. I love the old single clip rookie bases and the miggle proline boats.

2. I buy all figures just to try them out but I base my purchases on look and tradition. I buy Haiti because those were always my favorite men as a kid. I have to have at least one player in an original fab five pose just on GP. My team wouldn't be an EF team without the fab five poses. I buy everything else on look first, then balance. I use and enjoy every manufacturers figures but not every pose in their product line.

3. I like to play on big fields but not enough to own one...yet. I prefer the 620 size for portability. Make a big board that is light and easy to transport and I'm with it.

4. Our league plays DFW rules and I love them. But I'm always open to try different rules sets. What I don't want to do is build teams without being allowed to use any base or figure combination I want. I have more issues with some of the equipment restrictions.


David C.

Thumbs up.
I have used his kickers and they are fantastic.

How many times have we purchased Miggle Kickers that do not work.

His method rectifies this problem.

What are people afraid of?

I vote to use his kickers.