My 1945 Army project

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figures are painted. Hope to post some photos soon.

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[WEIRDWOLF]

I just want to commend this thread. This is a great reference thread for anyone ever wanting to research Army. It would be great to see more of these threads for other teams. Excellent!

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[Orleanian In Exile]

One question: I notice that in the Yankee Stadium picture, the goalposts are on the goal line, where in the others they're at the far edge of the endzone. What were the rules back then regarding where to place the uprights and were there different standards for college and pro fields? Something I've always been a bit curious about when I look at photos of the period.

Originally Posted by Orleanian In Exile

One question: I notice that in the Yankee Stadium picture, the goalposts are on the goal line, where in the others they're at the far edge of the end-zone. What were the rules back then regarding where to place the uprights and were there different standards for college and pro fields? Something I've always been a bit curious about when I look at photos of the period.

In the college game, Goal posts, originally placed on the goal line, were moved back 10 yards to the rear of the end zone in 1927 in an effort to avert injuries by ball carriers or other players running into the uprights. That move, of course, increased the distance for field goal tries by 10 yards. In 1959, in a successful attempt to bring the field goal back into college prominence, the distance between the goal posts was increased nearly 5 feet to a width of 23 feet, 4 inches. Because of a proliferation of successful field goals over the next three decades, the rule makers in 1988 disallowed the kicking tee for field goal and conversion attempts, and in 1991 returned the goal post width to 18 feet, 6 inches.

In 1967, the NFL adopted the "slingshot" goalpost, with a single post curving to support the crossbar. The NCAA later adopted the same rule, but later allowed the use of "offset" goalposts, with two posts rather than one. Three schools in Division I-A currently use two posts instead of one for goalposts in their stadiums: Florida State, LSU, and Washington State.

The picture at the top is Yankee Stadium in the 1940's before a New York Giants pro game. You will notice the FG posts up on the goal line. You can also see the infield dirt if you look closely.

In the 1945 college game pictures the FG posts are on the back line. That's Michigan Stadium, home of the Wolverines in 1945.

In the NFL the goal posts were moved from the back of the end-zone to the goal lines in 1933.
In 1966, goal posts were offset from the goal line and painted bright yellow.
In 1974, the goal posts were moved from the goal line to the end lines.

In 1988 the NCAA banned the kicking tee, requiring kicks from the ground.

In 1991 when the college goal posts were reduced in width to 18'6" the width of NFL goal posts, this meant severe angles for short field goal attempts, since the hashmarks were still located 53'4" apart. In 1993, the NCAA narrowed the distance between the hashmarks to 40' (which was the width of hashmarks in the NFL until 1972, when they were narrowed to 18'6").

[5-13 Studios]

Originally Posted by BigFranco

In the college game, Goal posts, originally placed on the goal line, were moved back 10 yards to the rear of the end zone in 1927 in an effort to avert injuries by ball carriers or other players running into the uprights. That move, of course, increased the distance for field goal tries by 10 yards. In 1959, in a successful attempt to bring the field goal back into college prominence, the distance between the goal posts was increased nearly 5 feet to a width of 23 feet, 4 inches. Because of a proliferation of successful field goals over the next three decades, the rule makers in 1988 disallowed the kicking tee for field goal and conversion attempts, and in 1991 returned the goal post width to 18 feet, 6 inches.

In 1967, the NFL adopted the "slingshot" goalpost, with a single post curving to support the crossbar. The NCAA later adopted the same rule, but later allowed the use of "offset" goalposts, with two posts rather than one. Three schools in Division I-A currently use two posts instead of one for goalposts in their stadiums: Florida State, LSU, and Washington State.

The picture at the top is Yankee Stadium in the 1940's before a New York Giants pro game. You will notice the FG posts up on the goal line. You can also see the infield dirt if you look closely.

In the 1945 college game pictures the FG posts are on the back line. That's Michigan Stadium, home of the Wolverines in 1945.

In the NFL the goal posts were moved from the back of the end-zone to the goal lines in 1933.
In 1966, goal posts were offset from the goal line and painted bright yellow.
In 1974, the goal posts were moved from the goal line to the end lines.

In 1988 the NCAA banned the kicking tee, requiring kicks from the ground.

In 1991 when the college goal posts were reduced in width to 18'6" the width of NFL goal posts, this meant severe angles for short field goal attempts, since the hashmarks were still located 53'4" apart. In 1993, the NCAA narrowed the distance between the hashmarks to 40' (which was the width of hashmarks in the NFL until 1972, when they were narrowed to 18'6").

whew, great post (no pun intended). very informative.

[jeff]

Where are the pics ?