Coaches Of Newyork (i Should Not Have Jumped The Gun)

[andre kc]

Hey! guys, I'm new here but not to the game. and I would like to take the time to say Hi to you all. I was a member of the NYEFL and I might have some free time coming up soon and was thinking about getting back into the hobby but the thing is, I don't like some of the rules that we played by in New York. like stacking and the locking of arms of the O-line, if that that part of the rules change I would like to come back and play :o

[Reginald Rutledge]

My name is Reginald Rutledge and I will be acting as a consultant for the New York League. I am a member of the DFW League which plays under this system. I can tell you the logic behind the rules that you are referring to. Maybe it will enlighten you, as I do hope. I would like to address those two areas for you.

First, the locking of the arms of the O Linemen. I appreciate your concerns regarding this. As you know, these are inanimate objects. All things like reality can not be accomplished using these figures but it can be pretty close. One of the first questions we always ask is, "Can that be done in the real game?" If it can be, then we think we should be able to implement it into our game. On any level of football, you can have close line play. Teams can have their linemen very close together. It's really up to them. In close quarters, linemen lock on to defensive linemen. The O-Line form wedges to protect QBs and sometimes runner. While there is a limit in our league for the max distance apart of one base length, it never has mattered how close together the linemen are. Even if you do have some distance in between the line, if your line runs with all Proline strong bases angled in to make a V-form, then they will still create a wedge. In our brand of football, we never create limitations on a team's offense. If his schemes are designed for power football, that's his personality. He's creating a team in his own image.

However, this is where stacking comes in at. Many people have a false concept about stacking. First, many leagues have never implemented systems to detour teams from stacking. It is my feeling that if a person has problems on stacking, there's one of three reason why that is so. They are as follows:

(1) Hearsay-something you've heard others talk about and felt the pressure of agreement to think it's bad for the game,

(2) Not having a full grasp of ways to combat against stacking because you feel the limitations of what you can do, or

(3) Lack the ability/skills to complete passes consistently with the TTQB and feel that the only fair way to give people a chance is to push the linebackers back 5 yards.

Hearsay is something that often times is just the wrong answer or its taken out of context. Many times, guys don't do the research on the Shootout Rule system, they just go by "I heard". Until leagues begin play in the system and understand the limitless possibilities, they continue to use "I hear" as a means of not trying it.

Grasping the system will be difficult at first for the players of this league. I know they will have a hard time. But once they understand that the ability to audible will make teams honest will make all the difference in the world! People don't realize that in our system, it creates an disadvantage for the defense if they audible. The movement of players for the audible is 3 to 1. This simply means, the 3 players behind the offensive line can be moved from their original spot to different places in the backfield. For instance, the QB can originally be under center. The RBs can be in an I-formation (fullback and tailback). Most people say, "That's unfair to the defense". Yeah, we know that but again, that is what stops the stack! The defense may be in an 8-player stack (in a straight line) trying to get pressure on the QB. That's his perrogative!

Well, after the 35/45 second clock goes off, the offensive team looking at the scheme the defensive team has, shifts out of that formation into a shotgun, pro set. The RBs are placed about 8 yards behind the left and right tackle angled out. The QB is shifted into a shotgun type formation. At that point, the defense only gets to move one player. Basically, he is stuck. He can move one of his linebackers out on the edge to stop one back but because he did not play an honest defense at the start, the other back has freedom to run or catch a flair pass and potentially for big yardage. The question becomes, can you hit the pass? Or if you don't want to chance it, just call a pitchout to that back. If you have taken the time to train this player to run around right or left end, this should be at least 10 yards and potentially an 80 yard jaunt.

This essentially enforces the defense to line up in an honest manner. In the DFW League, teams rarely ever try high risk defensive manuevers because we know, the opposing coaches can pass like crazy! However, a team should never be stripped of having that opportunity that is so afforded in the real game.

You may have situations where extreme measures are needed. There may be a 3rd and 8 and its in the fourth quarter. You are losing and time is running out! You have not gotten to the QB all day. But because your rules do not allow extreme blitzing, you might as well pack up your little men and head home. Oh yeah, you can hope for a miracle and hope that the outside LB will get around to hit the QB. But if the other team has continued to pick that up, there may be no other exotic schemes to allow the potential for a sack. That's why stacking is allowed. It is a high risk manuever that allows game changing plays. I may be able to stack 4 in a line and "pierce" the O-Line. I may finally be able to get the necessary heat up the middle to make the big play. However, this exotic type of scheme forces you to give up something in other areas. It's just the risk you have to take.

The last point is the lack of skill to use the TTQB. It has been my experience that most that have issues with stacking tend to also not be a very accurate passer. That's something that most will not admit because their pride is questioned essentially. I promise you, if you master the techniques of passing with the TTQB, you will never worry about a guy stacking on you again. You will know that you are not limited to stand in the pocket and throw. With the right knowledge, you can having a rolling pocket O-line and QB and make for an easier throw. The defense will not take such exotic chances to stop you. They will remain in Cover 2 or 3-Deep type zones because they know you will be able to burn them with the pass. So practice with this TTQB. He should not be used as an excuse for not allowing stacking. If the skillset to pass is high, stacking never comes up in conversations.

I will attach the initial and before snap (audible) formation of what transpires during the course of a play. I am sorry this is a lot of information but this is a very interesting topic. How many owners of an EF/MF company would take that much time to explain one facet of the game if he did not want you to grasp and hopefully embrace a system so unfamiliar to you? Give it a chance before you jump to rash judgments and it could possibly open up a whole new world of thinking for you. It certainly has for the members of the DFW, Alamo City, Las Vegas, and LAEFL leagues.

Andre, if you you find this topic uninteresting to you, please let me know so I will not waste your time showing this type of information.

Reginald Rutledge
Consultant for the new New York League
Owner of Footballfigures.com

[Reginald Rutledge]

Andre KC,

This is how some teams run exotic defensive schemes to get heat on the QB. This is a drastic situation that a defensive team may find himself in. Taking chances to try to get the ball back, but not accounting for all the skill players and potential holes can be frightening if you have the ability to make the defense pay.

Reg

[Reginald Rutledge]

Guys have nicknamed this "The West Coast" offense. This is more of a cerebral approach to blocking in the DFW. The linemen have to be athletes who can make blocks at certain pressure points. My linemen are custom FF.COM linemen able to withstand heavy defensive pressure.

Attached is how I run my blocking scheme. This is tried and true! Presently we rank first in the DFW in Power Rankings, not because we are stronger than most but because our holes are bigger than most to run through.

[Reginald Rutledge]

You have got to have the right athletes

[mantaraydre]

Doomsday, thanx for the post. I am going to call you today so we can chat.

reg, thanx for letting doomsday run withthe cowboy's. reg, i dont want to hear it ! IM HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE. If you dont come and play with us IM NEVER SETTING FOOT IN TEXAS AGAIN. (LOL) REG, You alway's talk abouty the vikings so just make a great viking team. This is your chance to run with adrian peterson. IM NOT TAKING NO FOR AN ANSWER.

REG RUTLEDGE (MINNESOTA VIKINGS)


MANTARAY

[Reginald Rutledge]

Please, if you feel this is too much information, always feel free to stop me because I tend to write things in a more elaborate manner, trying to make sure the person understand. By no means do I want to offend anyone by simplifying things to an elemental level.

Reg

[mantaraydre]

COACHES,


It's the max and lax show !!!!!!!!!!!!


lomax, artlax wants to run with the PACKERS so im giving you back THE JAGUARS (YOUR ORIGINAL CHOICE) SO ARTLAX CAN PLAY WITH THE PACKERS if that is ok with you.


I myself will run with the (ORANGE CRUSH DENVER BRONCO'S) It's time i returned to MY HORSES since im not going to the derby this year !!!!



MANTARAY

[mantaraydre]

HEY REG,


Please keep Consulting, im sure you will have a million phone converstions with mozeek and wally. We need to learn everything we can from you.


MANTARAY

[Reginald Rutledge]

Dre,

There's no need for me to play. There's no mountains to climb. No championships to win (except the DFW-LOL!).

I think that my role would be best suited as a consultant. I would like to see you guys have to play a person who knows the rules inside out and who could give you the stress levels needed to compete. Mike likes winning championships whereas I like teaching. Mike is a wonderful teacher and he will show you the nuiansces of the system too. I get more satisfaction from seeing guys learn the system and realize the possibilities that they will find out in good time.

Yes, I love the Vikings! I would love to someday play with the Vikings but this is something I think the league should approve. I think Corey hit on a outstanding point of fairness. That's the same point Rose hit on. However, you need a standard to shoot for and Mike is one. He has won 4 DFW crowns, a Texas Shootout title, and a BAMA Blast title. He wants to play. I want to teach!

Let your league decide if its to their best interest if I play. I spoke too soon when I told you I wanted to play but again, it helps having Rose to ground me. We will still come and visit. We've got great plans for the new New York League so I will be around.

Reg